jimmycoupe Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 I am looking to build myself a generic fruit machine controller. I have bought the I-Pac controller and Pacdrive along with a set of Pac-man fruit machine buttons. I have also picked up a coin button. My question is what other buttons do I need for a generic controller? I have attached a picture of the buttons I have bought . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davep180 Posted February 21, 2022 Report Share Posted February 21, 2022 You can run up to 16 buttons on the pacdrive (ie lit up/flashing). That should cover most machines. The buttons can be configured in MFME to match each individual machine. You'll never match every machine exactly to what you have printed on the buttons! You can always have extra unlit buttons too, the ipac should cover that ok. I'd probably add another hold button for the club machines and you can change the inserts if you wish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 Thanks for the help Dave thats a good call on another Hold button. Is MFME already setup for the pacdrive or do i need to do anything special to get the lights working? I might be jumping ahead of myself here but if I wanted to use real money what would I need for the payout system to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 Also 5v led bulbs and not 12v that's probably in them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cja272 Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, jimmycoupe said: Thanks for the help Dave thats a good call on another Hold button. Is MFME already setup for the pacdrive or do i need to do anything special to get the lights working? I might be jumping ahead of myself here but if I wanted to use real money what would I need for the payout system to work? Hi , You will need a parallel hopper this is the one i got of Ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255305399790?hash=item3b71633dee:g:8mgAAOSwKpphzdg3 also im using this type of coin mec https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224843021718?hash=item3459b03d96:g:uw0AAOSw17VevCf3 I used these for connections to the hopper and the coin Mec https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224448044824?var=523232367504 It is also important as i find out that the hopper shares the same ground with your pc/laptop if not the coins will not pay out. There are quite of few diagrams in the cabinet build thread for the wiring of these Edited February 22, 2022 by cja272 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted February 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Road Hog Mad said: Also 5v led bulbs and not 12v that's probably in them Good call on the 12v bulb, I do have a bag of 5v bulbs somewhere. 2 hours ago, cja272 said: Hi , You will need a parallel hopper this is the one i got of Ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255305399790?hash=item3b71633dee:g:8mgAAOSwKpphzdg3 also im using this type of coin mec https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224843021718?hash=item3459b03d96:g:uw0AAOSw17VevCf3 I used these for connections to the hopper and the coin Mec https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224448044824?var=523232367504 It is also important as i find out that the hopper shares the same ground with your pc/laptop if not the coins will not pay out. There are quite of few diagrams in the cabinet build thread for the wiring of these Thanks for the help and links, really appreciated. The parts are very reasonably priced as well. I will get researching on these cabinet build pages and do some swatting up Edited February 22, 2022 by jimmycoupe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted February 22, 2022 Report Share Posted February 22, 2022 You can use a MARS ME126 OR ME129 as well, I have a diagram for that (2 less wires). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted February 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 My controller build is underway . Box is made and is now in the shed drying after a coat of black spray paint ready for tomorrows drilling and wiring. I am very excited 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted February 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 I would really like a vinyl wrap once the controller is finished, I normally use Rockstar arcade for my arcade cabinet wraps but I know Paul won't have anything for fruit machines. Does anyone know if there is a multi-cade style artwork out there for fruit machines? anyone have any good ideas for a wrap otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted February 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Box built, sprayed and buttons fitted. Now for the fun bit, the wiring . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Looking really smart that. Nice job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cja272 Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 looks great !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted March 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Thanks for the kind comments :-). Wiring is now done and and 2 fruit machines have been configured to the pacdrive and the result is far greater than I expected, MFME is totally amazing and I love how easy it makes configuring the pacdrive and the flexability it allows. Next, a single USB solution for the rear, fit another pacdrive for the other couple of lights, replace the "Change Game" button for "Auto Nudge" and fit another "Hold" for club cabinets and move the shuffle button to one of the white arcade buttons that are being used for place markers at the moment. I also need to replace the yellow arcade buttons for proper hi and low buttons. Anyone know of a good cheap place for buying 5V LED bulbs? Aliexpress only seem to sell 5V in white for sub 1000 amounts, ArcadeWorld is the cheapest place I have found in the UK at 55p per bulb and eBay just dont go there unless you like to be spanked for a 5V LED. Once completed I am going to create a how to with parts, measurements, configuration and a youtube video for others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cja272 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Yes it really does make a difference , i got all my buttons and 5v bulbs from arcade world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amusements Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Looking very nice/tidy and solid:) That will make a world of difference to playability. Treat every day like your last, because one day it will be! Fruit Machine <<<My new project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted March 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Quick question, is there a resource or anyone out there that can help me locate a Pac-Man "Hold" decal for one of the big square buttons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPU_FIVE Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 @jimmycoupeYou've done a smashing job of that, matey... brilliant. I recently made one myself and it really makes a difference... i like watching the buttons in attract mode, it's so damn cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted March 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 Thank you, I blush with such nice comments Looks like you and me share something in common MPU_Five, I appear to be slightly obsessed with the attract mode and can easily become hypnotised by starring at it for too long lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted March 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 (edited) Latest update on the controller, Hi and Lo buttons added, another Pacdrive fitted, hub fitted inside of case along with a USB feed through panel mount for a single lead solution for the rear. Outstanding, add a auto nudge button and one more to replace the other white button place marker. Maybe a Nudge Up button? Edited March 5, 2022 by jimmycoupe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted March 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 My Auto Nudge button arrived :-). I only wanted the decal as I didn't like the button but it was the wrong size so I scanned and reprinted for a better button. Here is a copy if it's useful for anyone else's setups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted April 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) Yes, you need a pacdrive that can run up to 16 buttons. Really easy to use and setup with MFME. I am sure you will be able to see how it works when you get going on it but if you get stuck them give me a shout. If it helps with confidence the pacdrive and the zero delay dont talk to one another and MFME deals with the magic. Edited April 6, 2022 by jimmycoupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) When I get home from work I will give you a shout on here and will ask for a couple of screenshots and then I will tell you what is going on hopefully :-). Fear not we will get it sorted for you. Sadly no messenger, I use discord as I am heavily into sim racing and can be found flying round world tracks under name MrBTCC :-). Sorry I wasn't around sooner but we had a league race last night that is always all consuming. Solid 7th place finish seeing me 5th in the league. Sorry you probably think I'm utterly nuts lol. Just an observation as I will need to look at the machine and your config to see the issue but after reading this a couple of times I think it could be something to do with a machine having 2 flash light codes for a single button. Some machines have 2 codes, say Collect and Cancel is a combined button, sometimes the developer will use 2 light codes, one for cancel and one for collect. I think this could well be the issue but lets have a look later and see. I will download " crazy fruits ( red )" when home and will take a look to see if we have the 2 light codes in play. Don't worry at the moment if this doesnt make sense. Edited April 14, 2022 by jimmycoupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Is this the table you are having issues with? Crazy Fruits Red WDX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Before you start: Draw a cross reference zero delay/ pac drive id map based on your setup. Here is mine to help you understand. I am using a i-Pac instead of a zero delay. The bottom row of a button is my i-pac socket the button is wired to, then middle row is the key I programmed my i-pac to be, top row is the pac drive id number the button is wired to. Please take note on my map the top 2 buttons coin and quit are not wired to the pac drive hence no top row id number. So in total I have 18 pac drive id's. Next I will show how I would configure this table to my map. Edited April 14, 2022 by jimmycoupe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycoupe Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Ok, I have just sat and configured Crazy Fruit Red WDX to my i-pac and pacdrive setup. This is what it looks like. Use my key map (above) to understand the configuration below. No double lamp codes or anything off beat so pretty simple one to configure. I hope this makes sense and let me know if you need any further understanding with what's going on here and I will do my best to explain but hopefully it does make sense :-). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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