slotsmagic Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Martinb said: Got it spot on thank you so much!! Just got it working on a Scorp 4 I am messing with but yeah I get the jist. How awesome is all this stuff ! It's bonkers Just wondering - with your parallel £1 hopper, what are you using to power it? My relay modules arrived today (going to make a little board to drive it as shown in @davep180's thread), but just wondering if you are driving it from a 12V rail off your PCs PSU, or a separate PC PSU, or perhaps even a normal fruit machine PSU with 24V? Edited February 29 by slotsmagic Currently owned digitals : T7 Encore, T7 Original, Astra iPub and Storm Street Casino. MFME cabinets : Genesis cab DIY by No1Stoney, Interplay conversion and Vegas Strip conversion (both are works in progress!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinb Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, slotsmagic said: It's bonkers Just wondering - with your parallel £1 hopper, what are you using to power it? My relays arrived today (going to make a little board to drive it as shown in @davep180's thread), but just wondering if you are driving it from a 12V rail off your PCs PSU, or a separate PC PSU, or perhaps even a normal fruit machine PSU with 24V? Annoyingly I ended up with 3 PSU's: 1. 5V PSU 2. The original Barcrest PSU (no 5v annoyingly) 3. The 24v PSU for the Intel NUC PC I just connected the ground on them all to ensure all the signalling to the ipac worked correctly. The Hopper relays I used are slightly different but I had 5v connected to the relay and then the pac drive output as the 5v trigger on the one side and I switched ground for the £1 universal hopper but the compact hopper needed a +12v switch as the ground was also used for the opto circuit. That make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsmagic Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Martinb said: Annoyingly I ended up with 3 PSU's: 1. 5V PSU 2. The original Barcrest PSU (no 5v annoyingly) 3. The 24v PSU for the Intel NUC PC I just connected the ground on them all to ensure all the signalling to the ipac worked correctly. The Hopper relays I used are slightly different but I had 5v connected to the relay and then the pac drive output as the 5v trigger on the one side and I switched ground for the £1 universal hopper but the compact hopper needed a +12v switch as the ground was also used for the opto circuit. That make sense? I honestly haven't decided on whether to use both hoppers yet... My main playing era was very late 90s to late 2000s, so pretty much all the machines I play will be £1 payout only, and the ones that aren't I'd probably just aim to have a bank that's a round £ figure before collecting MInd you a second hopper does make sense down the line For the parallel hopper motor power, are you using the 24V of the NUC PSU, or an output on the original Barcrest PSU? I kept the original PSU and would happily use it Edited February 29 by slotsmagic Currently owned digitals : T7 Encore, T7 Original, Astra iPub and Storm Street Casino. MFME cabinets : Genesis cab DIY by No1Stoney, Interplay conversion and Vegas Strip conversion (both are works in progress!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinb Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, slotsmagic said: For the parallel hopper motor power, are you using the 24V of the NUC PSU, or an output on the original Barcrest PSU? I kept the original PSU and would happily use it I used the original Barcrest PSU 24v. I also use this PSU for the other hopper (although I opted for 12v to slow it down) and the cabinet fans oh and the coin tray light. It also powers my small amplifier (12v). The 5v was mainly for the relay and also the compact hopper opto circuit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsmagic Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Martinb said: I used the original Barcrest PSU 24v. I also use this PSU for the other hopper (although I opted for 12v to slow it down) and the cabinet fans oh and the coin tray light. It also powers my small amplifier (12v). The 5v was mainly for the relay and also the compact hopper opto circuit. That's not a bad idea at all. I probably ought to stick my Barcrest PSU back in. I ran everything off the PC PSU in the Vegas Strip due to the 'common ground' issues I read about, and the fact that the hopper runs great on 12V but am not sure that overloading my little small form factor PC PSU with a load of additional stuff is a good idea I'm sure all the pinouts are clearly labelled on the PSU so hopefully I'll be able to work something out. Probably should have kept the original loom for the plug that goes to the PSU, but then since I'm not using that many pins I'm sure I can bodge something suitable Edited February 29 by slotsmagic Currently owned digitals : T7 Encore, T7 Original, Astra iPub and Storm Street Casino. MFME cabinets : Genesis cab DIY by No1Stoney, Interplay conversion and Vegas Strip conversion (both are works in progress!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinb Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 8 minutes ago, slotsmagic said: That's not a bad idea at all. I probably ought to stick my Barcrest PSU back in. I ran everything off the PC PSU in the Vegas Strip due to the 'common ground' issues I read about, and the fact that the hopper runs great on 12V but am not sure that overloading my little small form factor PC PSU with a load of additional stuff is a good idea I'm sure all the pinouts are clearly labelled on the PSU so hopefully I'll be able to work something out. Probably should have kept the original loom for the plug that goes to the PSU, but then since I'm not using that many pins I'm sure I can bodge something suitable0 Yes and I forgot the coin mech is also powered from the original Barcrest PSU. The existing loom made my ipac/pac drive wiring really easy and the tri colour buttons are great - so much so I have ordered the ID2 Pac drive so I can have all RGB on each button active for theme colour matching (21 outputs). I quite like matching the button colour and positions to the layout but its all time consuming fun lol I am wondering now about the note acceptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsmagic Posted February 29 Report Share Posted February 29 32 minutes ago, Martinb said: Yes and I forgot the coin mech is also powered from the original Barcrest PSU. The existing loom made my ipac/pac drive wiring really easy and the tri colour buttons are great - so much so I have ordered the ID2 Pac drive so I can have all RGB on each button active for theme colour matching (21 outputs). I quite like matching the button colour and positions to the layout but its all time consuming fun lol I am wondering now about the note acceptor Does yours have a VEGA note acceptor and recycler unit like mine had? I have a spare NV9 USB with new notes and a stacker that I was tempted to try but it's really not necessary for me. I do feel the VEGA with recycler might cause more issues than it's worth Currently owned digitals : T7 Encore, T7 Original, Astra iPub and Storm Street Casino. MFME cabinets : Genesis cab DIY by No1Stoney, Interplay conversion and Vegas Strip conversion (both are works in progress!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinb Posted February 29 Author Report Share Posted February 29 13 minutes ago, slotsmagic said: Does yours have a VEGA note acceptor and recycler unit like mine had? I have a spare NV9 USB with new notes and a stacker that I was tempted to try but it's really not necessary for me. I do feel the VEGA with recycler might cause more issues than it's worth Yes same has a vega but I have an NV9 which I’m tempted to play with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardFarmer Posted March 5 Report Share Posted March 5 On 12/02/2024 at 05:59, Martinb said: Thanks for your help and wisdom much appreciated - yeah thats exactly what I meant but if I drove the motor direct (from the relay) the opto should still output, shouldn't it? or on a CCTalk model is that counting just not happening the same as a parallel and it sends the data back as its serial protocol messaging I wonder - I suppose I could wind it round and see I will have a little look when time next allows might save me a few quid. There are definitely opto outputs labelled on the hopper identical to the post from Dave I linked above. It cant be as bad to strip down as a smart hopper, what fun I had changing a belt on one of those recently You can use any hopper if you use infrared sensors to register the coin output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinb Posted March 6 Author Report Share Posted March 6 8 hours ago, EdwardFarmer said: You can use any hopper if you use infrared sensors to register the coin output Thanks yes did consider that type of idea but luckily I got them working so all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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