MikeyMonster

JPM 's £8 to £15 Barcrest £10- £25 for me. Also - REDS £25-£70... but only cos this was such a good era for me IRL

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I could go on for hours in this vein.... so many down the years........

Right theough the all cash era from £10 to £70- you would walk into pub machines happy for no reason at all and spewing thier guts first board. So a trap may not have made any extra money the value was always there. You would play a £15 Barcrest and it would flash 1st board - cos someone had worked after the JP and it was streaking............ So many examples down the years... one of the best being a 5 reel red (with a cashpot) me and my mate went to play.... he was parking up.... i walked in to get drinks..... no one behind bar.... £1 in machine for £70... another £1 in for the £35 repeat and walked out b4 my mate had made it to the door, he asks no good then? ....."nah..... cashpot full but i though the £103 profit was good enough!" We went back for the CP that night.... annoyingly it took a whole £20! In the busy busy busy and sorely missed arcade days - Ive seen JP's left on line that then hold...... Red hot Rolls with Jp's on the line... credit in and it goes Roll Em! Auto pay roller coaster - on fill up day - exactly £10 off full.... Odd... so watch the lights it seems to be impyling last win roller coaster....20p for a tenner... 20p for £9.60... 20p no repeat - RUDE! (I was tight in those days - didnt want to even waste the 20p unless i was sure...:):)) Plenty more like this when the money was flooding into these things. Nowadays so much less casual play - its not really happening.

I agree with all of this and still dabble today. I don't force pretty much anything - take profit till it dries up - just as well off as if forcing. The mind set of Forcing seems locked in since the £10/£15/£25 barcrest and the £25/£35/£70 Red gaming.... not to mention the stuff that came after. I know plenty of stories were players have said a BETCOM was offering £20 1st board - took £140 to go for £150..... should have walked and not wasted an hour! Genuine Traps - like the £70 Barcrests or some of the Deals were worthwhile. Some of the DOND's you could frequently trap off 2 or maybe 3 deal boards - the machines defo didnt "see" this and was ready to pay - or they would not have chipped them out. The "Power up" machines are just fucked as well.

So.... messing about on this....... ignoring boards or killing them off and gambling hi lo for JP It took AGES.... well over £150...... the board after JP off super nearest win - and to my absolute disbelief - True Skill repeat! In hindsight - should have knocked it back like you would on King Kebab and the likes..... was too stunned though!

@serene02 Thanks - will have to stick to treasure trail..... memories just not quite the same.

To all our intrepid layout designers..... do we have the roms / images for above? If so - anyone fancy making it?? Teenage favourite for me - its just about a clone of Projects Treasure Trail - some very small differences. Best for me is can give same number when going hi-lo...... if it gives three sixes on the run...... 666 its streak time!

Wonky has hit the nail on the head with his list - and Vectra is spot on. For me - the best era for playability was the £15..... JPM, Cracker, Hi-impact, Streaker, Red Alert. Impulse (and ACE's Hot Shot, Ceasers Palace) all amazing. Barcrests Red hot Knights (and clones - Monty Python, Arabian Nights, Neptunes Treasure and others) with thier streak profile. Addams Family, Party Animal, Temple of Treasure for pure fun, Cash Run, Let the Good Times Roll.......... the list goes on Barcrest £25's had belters as well. Further back in time - the BWB video cabinet games - all excellent SO much to choose from. And - I have a soft spot for the lo-tech multi player £5jp Party Fruits! P p p p p Party Fruits - Lets Go

Either way, there was a clear mechanical sound inside the machine. I was chatting to a casino fruit machine player who thought it was due.... but had given up and taken a couple of £50 wins. He got a board on his last credit..... i was nattering - he told me to shut up - then said did you hear that - its a JP. It was as well..... board went to the super feature and then to top of the trail. I was lucky enough to experience it myself - some sort of grinding whirring noise when i had put £6 in it once. On the board it gave me a skill stop off a question mark when the JP was 2 nudges away. It pays the first £750 in three lots of £250 at about a pound a second - takes ages! Then speeed pays the last £250....

Theres an emulated barcrest cluber - take your pick i think, and from RAM reset - every go the CP goes up by £25 so its full after 10 plays! I always believed that for most CP machines, they worked similar to the way £1000 machines paid jackpots...... Say its 80%...... for every quid it takes 20p is profit, 79.5p can be won in normal play and 0.5p goes in the CP bank (or JP bank on a £1000) once the CP bank is higher than the CP itself..... it can pay it.... either by spinning in or off a feature. Obviously these figures would change from machine to machine - so some might put as much as 10% towards JP / CP wins. This was almost definitely the case on Belfruit £1000's.... I mean it even had two hoppers - one which held £300 for normal wins and banks (and good luck trying to get more than £60-70 off the top features or maybe £100 on the cash trail) and once ready - it would give the JP. The machine is basically a £75 JP machine, with a once in a blue moon JP. Not only that, on the start of a JP board (IRL) you can hear the 2nd hopper with its £750 coin back up balance moving in some way inside the machine so its lined up to pay out. The two hoppers even pay out at different speeds. Whilst I may be wrong, this would explain why you cannot flat out force a huge number of clubbers.

@TheSecondLugia I've taken this approach with a few machines....... Betcoms and Reflexes will eventually just gamble to the £100 / top feature from the cash trail... and the reflexes can actually give £200 tops - unheard of on a Betcom. There is a thread somewhere - from @Chopaholicabout the evilness of betcom's Andy Capp....... with some interesting comments.

Cos Red's dont have a flash board, you can really knock them back...... just for giggles last week i put £300 through Holy Moley (50p mega spins £35) without collecting anything. You sure can have fun afterwards though getting the value back out - and (on larger JP's at least) you can get it back to percentage.....

Most daunting willl flash on a true GATW board. Nifty fifty is just evil - cos when it does give the £25...... its anywhere from £25 to £200! So it needs to build it up........

Incidentally Woodsy - if we hover over your ranking.... its in Greek

Thanx @woodsy Mine are all Greek as well (although I didnt realise it was Greek until I was told - could have been any of a number of languages)

LTGTR - IMO one of Barcrests greats! (I guess it was a similar release date to Ten Ten Do it Again - also awesome) I got barred from a kebab shop cos of a LTGTR..... I mean - by all means bar me from the machine..... but a man's got to eat!

I remeber - probalby around 2002 ish..... that my local Casino had a number of £1000 JP machines. Club Money to Burn (which i JP'd once), Costa Del Cash some low tech USA style dragon things..... some pretty good fun poker games where you could double up gamble 5 times for £64 or £128 and walk.... and a Maygay one (cannae remember name - or even theme!) I remeber one night on the feature nudging in £500.... which is interesting cos on the Barcrest and BFM £1000 JP's it seemed to be £50 to £100 then JP and the £250 / £500 wins just werent happening. Have we got any £1000 Maygay Roms - and if so do any of our awesome layout designers fancy giving them a bash?

Try donating......... the site is not here to make money - but to support a community and that incurs charges, A small donation will help the site to continue so that you can access the machines in the first place, and will change your maximum downloads significantly. I donate a little bit each year - and the pleasure i derive from the site - and the hours of enjoyment mean i am basically paying next to nothing for quality entertainment. (I would like to pay more - my finances do not allow that - and yet every donation i do make is met with genuine thanks) Thats my take anyway.

Well - without donating - you still get free access to 15 a month - generous if you doing absolutely nothing in exchange - pretty sure no advertising revenue for the site either. I make modest donations - and i mean very modest - once a year. For me this is amazingly good value for money as it gives me hours of entertainment. Donate - get the unlimited downloads and jobs a good un. You may also find that you want to get more involved with the forums once this in place.

Line of Duty is decent though - well until the last series

Im sure in one episode The Major actually plays the damn thing....... at least in the background anyway..... Incidentally - for anyone who does appreciate the retro vibe - Southport Pier has a cafe/bar at the end. and one half of this is an "arcade" which is more of a museum. There is about 25-30 old old old machines - all in working condition, and you can buy old pennies to play them with. Its pretty cool actually.

Bizarrely enough... there are even professional ticket machine players! Has anyone seen the one where you have to drop 6 balls into the exact right 6 slots on a rotating wheel with about 50 slots, to win a jackpot usually in excess of 10000 tickets? There is 4 in a row in one of the Blackpool piers, we watched a youngish couple take all 4 jackpots in under 15 mins. Cost them at most £20...... and 50k of tickets does give some decent prizes..... Lots of the non-fruit machine type games are skill games and decent players always have a decent chance at the JP. (of course, they won't pay out multiple JP's close together - they become non skill for a while)

i tend to use the legacy section for all my downloads..... new stuff is added there pretty regularly and most (but certainly not all) of the games do have roms and work just fine