Psycon Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Hi everyone. I am going to build a cabinet but want to get all the mechanics setup before I do this. I have read through the forums and so far have a list as follows. I-pac Pacdrive special Cashflow 126 dfx coin mech Azkoyen parallel hopper Buttons I will first get the pacdrive and I-pac and buttons and see if I can wire them up first. I should be getting a pc with a 42 inch screen which I will work into the design. I have no idea how to wire the pac drive to the buttons yet. If someone can point me in the right direction for how they are wired. Must be one circuit for the led's and another circuit for the button press? Am looking forward to building this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cja272 Posted December 31, 2021 Report Share Posted December 31, 2021 Hi, See this link loads of info on buttons pac drives etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amusements Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Most buttons nowadays run on 5v LED's, so wiring them up is pretty easy, and logical. The Ipac and Pacdrive push out 5v, one has a negative ground, and the other has a positive ground which makes things a bit easier. Treat every day like your last, because one day it will be! Fruit Machine <<<My new project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 Thanks for the link! Really helpful. I have been looking at buttons and ideally I want about 44mm square buttons. I can't find any that are 5v. They all seem to be 12v. Does anyone know anywhere that does them with 5v led's inside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amusements Posted January 1, 2022 Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 I would find some you like, and contact the seller. Ask them if they will also run on 5v. I have bought many that said they were 12v, and they all run fine on 5v. Treat every day like your last, because one day it will be! Fruit Machine <<<My new project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Amusements said: I would find some you like, and contact the seller. Ask them if they will also run on 5v. I have bought many that said they were 12v, and they all run fine on 5v. I have found a site that you can buy all the switches and LED's separate so I will get them that way ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Hey all. Ok I have now ordered buttons, switches, led's, pacdrive, i-pac and cables. My next thing is getting the cashflow 126 dfx and the azkoyen parallel hopper. Is this the only hopper that you guys recommend? Also can it be any parallel hopper or does it need to be the azkoyen parallel hopper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amusements Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 I use the cheapest hoppers possible, along with external relays, to trigger the motor, and opto sensor (coin out ([). Others use the ones with built in SSR (solid State Relays) which are more expensive. You can use any Parallel hopper as far as I know, its just a case of what voltage, size and price you want to pay. Treat every day like your last, because one day it will be! Fruit Machine <<<My new project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted January 4, 2022 Report Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Psycon said: Hey all. Ok I have now ordered buttons, switches, led's, pacdrive, i-pac and cables. My next thing is getting the cashflow 126 dfx and the azkoyen parallel hopper. Is this the only hopper that you guys recommend? Also can it be any parallel hopper or does it need to be the azkoyen parallel hopper? the azkoyen parallel hoppers are a good choice because they are pretty much plug and play with MFME and no additional relays etc required once its wired up to your pacdrive/ipac. They also work with virtually every type of coin without modification as @Amusementshas already mentioned, you can use most parallel hoppers but you may need additional relays etc to make them work. Edited January 4, 2022 by No1Stoney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) Ok I will prob get the azkoyen hopper if its easier to plug in and set up. £60 seems to be the average price I can find so far. What cable will I need to connect it to the pacdrive? Edited January 5, 2022 by Psycon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Another thing I want to happen is when the pc powers up, it runs MFME but stops once its running. How do I get it to switch straight into a fruit machine at startup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amusements Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 35 minutes ago, Psycon said: Ok I will prob get the azkoyen hopper if its easier to plug in and set up. £60 seems to be the average price I can find so far. What cable will I need to connect it to the pacdrive? The PacDrive comes with a USB Printer style cable that goes into your PC. The outputs on it are simply screw terminals, so you wont need any special type of cable on that side of things, so you only have to worry about the hopper connection - depending on what hopper you choose. One thing I would like to mention - while you are in the planning stage, is the screen. That (to me) is the most important part of a build. The bigger you go, the better the end experience. Some newer layouts are 4k, and older layouts can be upscaled with a decent branded screen in portrait mode. Treat every day like your last, because one day it will be! Fruit Machine <<<My new project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 If you're happy to wait, there is one here slightly cheaper from germany https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193733260004?hash=item2d1b66f2e4:g:JwoAAOSwkHJfnxCd Its a shame they are so expensive at the minute, I found mine around £15 each 2nd hand from ebay. Seems there aren't many parallel ones available. As for wiring. use whatever wires you want, but these are good kits to have: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303426594516?hash=item46a5a266d4:g:JBcAAOSwcrJeCu8Z You can use one of the 5x2 black connectors as these fit perfectly into the azkoyen hopper, then just add your wires yourself. VCC (x3) - 12v power source GND (x) - 0v Control - Pacdrive output 15 & 16 (or just 16 if you only use 1 hopper) Coin - Ipac (any output but set to '[' & ']' or '[' if only using 1 hopper) Hope that makes sense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Thanks for this guys. Really helps. I am lucky enough to get hold of a 46 inch led screen panel so that should look pretty good. The hopper from Germany has huge postage cost which is a bumber. I will get one of those connector packs when I order the hopper. Is there a wiring diagram for the coin mech anywhere? At least these arnt that expensive atm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Psycon said: Thanks for this guys. Really helps. I am lucky enough to get hold of a 46 inch led screen panel so that should look pretty good. The hopper from Germany has huge postage cost which is a bumber. I will get one of those connector packs when I order the hopper. Is there a wiring diagram for the coin mech anywhere? At least these arnt that expensive atm! Yes, but combined still about £20 cheaper than the £60+ ones you mentioned. Coin mech wiring (this is based on a PC providing the 12v source, but you can use any 12v source) Azkoyen hopper (excuse the sloppy diagram, it was mocked up in a few minutes, but hopefully you can understand it) Edited January 5, 2022 by No1Stoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 I may have to get hold of a pc pcu as the computer I am running it from isn't a pc that you normally have. It's a motherboard that has built in ram and an ssd all built in. Its like a dedicated board for running software on. No pc molex wires. There will be a 12 pover pack running the screen though so I may come off of that. Am I right in saying the pc 0v is the negative terminal off of the power pack? Also I will only be running 1 hopper to start with so I'm guessing just ignore the second hopper wiring for now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted January 5, 2022 Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Yes, 0v is just the negative terminal. Yes, just ignore the 2nd hopper if you plan to only use 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2022 Ok great. Thanks for the diagram. Really helpful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2022 Hey. I have received my wiring and having a look at wiring guide reg did, I am unsure what the connections I have highlighted in blue go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 Correction its just these wires as misread the instructions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amusements Posted January 7, 2022 Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 The red wire on the top right is just a common +5v out of the Pac drive. All the LEDS use this for the +5 voltage, and can be linked together. The Black wire is the negative for that particular LED output IE:#8 which gets assigned in your Pacdrive settings in MFME config to the corresponding button. There are 16 negative outputs on the Pacdrive. Most of us use 1 - 14 for bulbs, 15 for hopper 2 motor, and 16 for hopper 1 motor. For more than 14 LEDs we use an additional Pacdrive pre set by ultimarc with ID#2. Treat every day like your last, because one day it will be! Fruit Machine <<<My new project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2022 11 hours ago, Amusements said: The red wire on the top right is just a common +5v out of the Pac drive. All the LEDS use this for the +5 voltage, and can be linked together. The Black wire is the negative for that particular LED output IE:#8 which gets assigned in your Pacdrive settings in MFME config to the corresponding button. There are 16 negative outputs on the Pacdrive. Most of us use 1 - 14 for bulbs, 15 for hopper 2 motor, and 16 for hopper 1 motor. For more than 14 LEDs we use an additional Pacdrive pre set by ultimarc with ID#2. Ahh ok great. Still waiting for the switches to arrive but hopefully it will all make sense when I wire it all up. Just wasn't sure what those wires were. Thanks for explaining it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2022 Hey all. Just an update. Cabinet is coming along slowly. All the buttons are wired and I will be putting them onto the pacdrive and i-pac over the weekend. Still waiting for the wires for the screen so can't test that side of it yet. Getting there slowly! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 Hey. I have just wired the pacdrive and setup the led's in the configuration. When I test them they all light up. Now how do I get them to flash as per the emulated machine? They only turn on when I test them. I have attached a screenshot of what I have put in the settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycon Posted January 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Psycon said: Hey. I have just wired the pacdrive and setup the led's in the configuration. When I test them they all light up. Now how do I get them to flash as per the emulated machine? They only turn on when I test them. I have attached a screenshot of what I have put in the settings I have just realised I need to put in the light number under value 1. Other than trial and error, is there a way to know what number the lights are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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