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7 hours ago, dondplayer said:
If you search for Deal Or No Deal What's In Your Box ? Wdx 1.0.0 it is apparently the early ROMs for the Winstopper empty.
They do seem to be the Win Stopper empty roms. It's difficult to hit on the emulator though!
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There was a good playing method on these until the later program came out and made it slightly more difficult to get the value out. Here's some game play showing how to trick Mega Streak on the feature board. As far as I can tell, we haven't got the original roms which allowed you to empty the machine from the Win Stopper feature. The later program is the machine on the right which I briefly play in the last 5 minutes.
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Might be worth mentioning with Scorpion 4 Golden Game Top Box you need to create a button and an alpha display. Design, edit, right click anywhere on the machine that doesn't have a numbered button and then you will see create button or alpha in the menu. The button needs to be number 10 which increases the volume and of course the alpha display will show you the volume level. When you tick the refill box and door boxes, the volume menu is there straight away so you don't need to create other buttons to cycle through menus. If you turned the volume up too much then button number 9 will decrease the volume level.
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On 25/07/2021 at 23:51, GeorgeJG said:
Anyone know the absolute top whack streak combo? You'd think in theory as it can hold several times it could go for over £300 but they always felt once you got over the £170ish point that any hold from that point was not going to be a big one.
I witnessed a mate empty a £25 jackpot Red White and Blue in Ingoldmells. He definitely had a couple of big streaks and there was over 50 in the bank when it went empty. The staff filled it up through the coin slot which meant the machine wasn't reset and it held another couple of times after. He must have got at least 10 tops, I'll have to ask him about it.
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@ChopaholicYou mentioned something in the video that I too thought about afterwards. It was collecting the red 100 in the cash shots. In the wild on Popeye, I sometimes had to collect the red 100 cash shot if it came first before the natural Mega Streak board or I wasn't able to trap it. As you might know, the Mega Streak cannot go above £100 anyway.
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Not sure if I ever seen 3 lots of £75 in the same set of streaks. I'm sure it must be possible though.
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It will probably never offer the red £100. I played a lot of these dice games on digital units and never had £150 Mega Streaks. Cop The Loot and Paddy's won't give £150 either. The only Betcom type game I think can give the £150 is Cash Exploder.
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1 hour ago, MikeyMonster said:
They are the same... JP start is either £19 if followed by £2 or £75 if followed by a fiver..... (might have been a tenner on big top - honestly cannot remember)
Jackpot start can give the £1 symbols next on Red White And Blue. Not sure if it can on Big Top.
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Does the machine think the red £100 has to repeat, which means it cannot give £200. The highest win as we know is £150 which is obviously the best win on the red Mega Streak.
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1 hour ago, MikeyMonster said:
My best in real life on a Big top was £75, £75 £52...... it had cost me a tenner......
It was on unit 3... funny as fuck though cos i had been waiting for unit one... and a cunt I knew sprinted the length of the arcade to get on it before me whilst i was collecting a bank out on rollercoaster.
I was cursing him and giving him some serious shit - i mean he knew i was waiting for it.... and what he did was totally against the players code.
He lost over £100 on his... and whilst he was stuck on it... I cleaned up!
If the red streak starts with the dollars £3 win then you know it's definitely a £52 streak. Can't remember the equivalent on Big Top.
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This is the great new layout from @No1Stoneywhich is a game that had potential for big streaks and profits. If the machine was offering mixed streaks regularly then you could knock these back and go for the red streak which shouldn't be too far away. The streak could hold over multiple times as you will see in the video.
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The original program could be emptied on the Skill Spinna feature which I showed on a video before. This is program 1.1 where the Skill Spinna doesn't work but there was still a way to empty the machine. The Super Board still comes round within £25 of the previous jackpot and with good percentages it will come round after £17-£20. There is a melons setup shown towards the end which gives the Super Board and 8 steps a lot quicker but it makes the system go out of sync.
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These are all the RWB roms I downloaded. I think a lot of these were under the BWB download section which is why you might not have noticed them.
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4 hours ago, slotsmagic said:
It's a tricky one. While £25 was definitely an update, I was never a fan of rechips, and would rather play the machines on their original stake and prize. When the JP gets increased, but the stake changes the same, something has to give - and that's normally gameplay, at least on machines which don't streak much. On those which do it's probably less of an issue as they just change the streak, so rather than being say 5 x £15 jackpots in quick succession, it might just be 3 x £25.
That is very true what you say about the gameplay. However, on certain machines the £25 jackpot is superior to the £15 version. One example is Ready To Rock, which can be emptied on the £25 jackpot but not on £15. The Vivid machines like Pie Factory and Card Shark are better on £25. Six Shooter and Giant Gems did receive the £25 Dx but most others have not. Connect 4 is another which doesn't have a proper Dx as of yet.
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3 hours ago, No1Stoney said:
Hi dad, yes the triple version is the one I'm after. I used the ROMs labelled triple but like you say, they appear to be the single player ones!
I downloaded Red, White and Blue roms from a post made by loo over at Mecca. They seem to be the triple version as I loaded them into the Star and Stripes layout and it did a slave unit error. It did actually let me play on but when I get a streak it plays weird.
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There are so many machines that were originally released as a £15 jackpot Dx which could do with a £25 update. Mainly Barcrests but also games from other manufacturers. A machine that I have always wanted to see is a Vivid Red, White and Blue Dx. There are a couple of videos on YouTube which show most of the machine.
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5 hours ago, Fishsta said:
Once you have the 4 question marks, hi-lo to go does still do the resurrection thing. It definitely doesn't kill you off.
I probably didn't explain it too well, but what I meant was kill yourself by going the wrong way on hi lo continue before you actually survive the 4 question marks for the invincible mode. You know it will do invincible on feature entry because the eyes flash.
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3 hours ago, Jamessco said:
Ironically i was just about to post about Spiker, once you're invincible and you land on Game Over, it'll do the "Game Over sequence" then light back up invincible to let you continue. Had no idea about the Hi/Lo thing tho.
Yes it makes you think you actually got killed on the invincible board but then it resurrects again! The hi lo thing is also the same on a normal board, so it's basically a guaranteed continue.
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Spiker the Biker could kill you on hi lo continue on an invincible board. You had to go the way of which one lit first. Lotta Luck and clones gave you invincible on mid feature as you were going round the board.
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You probably need to play it a good while before the empty method kicks into gear as it will RAM reset when you load those roms in. Also the volume goes back down to number 1. Up to you whether you want to turn the volume up on the unit.
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Yeah I did a short video of some game play with these empty roms. I don't have a microphone, so this needs some commentary which explains how the empty works.
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Card Shark being a Vivid is definitely a force machine. However, with Vivids there are 2 separate pots you are building up. These are the cash wins and the feature board. With Card Shark there are several different pots. One of them is a "free win" jackpot.
On Golden Game there is a pro players method where you knock back any top boards until the machine flashes golden x or offers nudges for it every credit or so. This is what's known as the repeat pot. On £25 jackpot the big repeat pot is usually £85 but it can give less like £35 or £40. Also this repeat pot doesn't affect the hold after nudge for golden game. So you should find after forcing for the repeat pot, the machine will offer you hold after nudge for golden game.
Monopoly Wheel of Wealth has a streak pot that will eventually come round. If you don't take it, then it will keep offering every credit until you take it. It will give Mega Streak on the wheel.
Betcoms are the ultimate force machines of recent times. The Mega Streak will give either £100 or £150, it seems to be totally random which amount it will give. Some can't give £150 though, such as Popeye, and Baking Bad which is a clone of Star Paws.
Most Daunting and clones such as Round The Bend and Doctors And Nurses have certain setups where you can obtain frequent features so it's best to collect wins. You can force them for jackpot but it's really not worth it. On the early programs, you could get on the board every time it feature held by using a refill key!
Most Astra lo techs can't be forced. Especially Bullion Bars. Take what you can on these.
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If you don't collect anything on Battle Axe, Revolution and clones, then the board will start 3 or 4 features up like it does on run after a jackpot.
As you found out with DOND Mega it will start offering £100 (the bells) if you don't collect anything. Also it should just shoot Mega Streak on the shots. This is kind of a separate pot.
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Believe it or not, but the method you explained above is exactly how "professional" fruit machine players usually play machines. Barcrests are a prime example of machines that are worth forcing for jackpot. On some machines there will be a certain feature that pays jackpot which can be obtained before the machine is ready to give a GATW board.
Your result on Barcrest It's Amazing is interesting. Usually the Barcrest critical error pops up when the machine has gone way over percentage or paid out too much. Never seen it error like this when it's been forced. If you force Psycho Cash Beast or Frenzy on the early program, you will find the bonus starts on taxi or skillstop on feature entry.
On Pie Factory there is a high up feature called Upper Crust where you have to hit the flashing buttons. Just don't hit the right button and you can lose.
On The Simpsons the "pros" method back in the day is collect £1 on the red board. It will still keep spinning in the feature which will be red, so keep collecting £1 until the feature spin in is normal. Then it goes on a £60 or £75 run.
Monopoly Road To Riches was an interesting result. A lot of JPM machines will spin the jackpot straight in when they have been forced. JPMs are an example of a machine where it's best to collect wins though.
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Deal Or No Deal What's In Your Box
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Looked in the layout gallery for this and I never knew this existed before!