Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Any suggestions on this? Wired up a hopper as per @No1Stoney instructions (which has worked twice before on previous machines) and nothing is happening. @Reg. IN the winipac setting I have set it to [ on 2START and plugged it in to 16 on the ipac. Underneath the hopper is a little jumper plug I have tried this in various positions to no avail. How can I tell if the hopper is getting power as I can't see anything lit up? I have double checked everything, the hoppers are azkoyen universal 12v. help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 To add I attached a spare side light bulb from a car to the psu and is lighting the bulb up for the wires connected to the hopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Could this be another issue with 'common ground' in other words is the hopper sharing the same ground as the ipac? The easy way to solve this if possible is splice into one of the ground wires from the pc the usbs are plugged into and use that for the hopper ground. If the hopper and ipac are connected on separate circuits then it won't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Erm how do you do that lol @No1Stoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Is that the silver earth wire wrapped around @No1Stoney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cja272 Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 I had the same problem and did the same as you and cut the laptop cable and it worked fine , the wires on mine was black white and blue but yours looks different?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 @cja272laptop PSU and separate old pc PSU, I have cut in to a usb wire for the earth like No1 said, gonna test it now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Hmm nothing doing it like this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 That doesn't work either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 If I do a bulb test between the the psu live and laptop earth no bulb lights up. Bear in mind the laptop powers the laptop and the psu powers the coin mech and hoppers. The coin mech still works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Getting power... connected right,I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Must be software related, hopper powered up as confirmed with a bulb, wire connected to 16 and other wire connected to winipac ith a [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 Take a ground from one of the black wires off the PCs PSU. Assuming of course that the PSU powers the PC which your USBs are on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, No1Stoney said: Take a ground from one of the black wires off the PCs PSU. Assuming of course that the PSU powers the PC which your USBs are on. I thought I had already done this in the pictures above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 I think you need to look at the laptop cable like @cja272 has done. Under the metal sheaf in the laptops power cable should be the wires. Because you have used your laptop for usb and the separate psu for the hopper , it doesn't share a common ground. Remember its all about the hopper getting the signals to pay out and stop paying out. (Your test bulb will light as there is power going to your hopper) This is driven both by the pacdrive and the ipac so everything needs to be on the same circuit . To do this everything needs to share that common ground wire. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 Update, connected ground on ipac to separate PSU that creates common ground, hoppers work but.. 10p hopper pays out continuosly. Any ideas? @No1Stoney @Reg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1Stoney Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 First check with notepad that the 10p hopper is pressing the [ or ] key each time a coin passes the sensor. If it is, then if its a scorpion 4 machine, try a mpu5 machine and see what happens as some scorpion 4 machines don't work correctly with dual hoppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 It seems one 10p payout game screwed all the others up, trying another game and a reboot later it works fine. ThAnk god! So we now know for sure if you make a laptop build and are using the original power supply and powering the hoppers off a separate supply, connecting the winipac ground to the seperate power supply earth common grounds it all. Thank you to all that helped me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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