MVFME V1.0 Released

[thealteredemu]

That’s mental if that’s the case.

Nosing around some of the extra uni and xml files for this game (sure it was this one) it mentions about compensation.  Are the £100 machines generally compensated?

J

[Fishsta]

4 minutes ago, Archstered said:

When you use the autoplay on it, a box above appears which also states 'EXTRA % PAYOUT' but there's nothing in the help screens that actually say what that % is... I don't think they could or would write that if it wasn't true, but it's not explicitly said/. I think there is another game called 'The Cheshire Cat' which has the same 'feature'. 

JINX!

[Archstered]

1 minute ago, thealteredemu said:

That’s mental if that’s the case.

Nosing around some of the extra uni and xml files for this game (sure it was this one) it mentions about compensation.  Are the £100 machines generally compensated?

J

Yeah, for the main part, the £100 communities were/are compensated, most of the £500 T7 games are 'random'. 

[thealteredemu]

Ah ok.  I’ll check some of the others, fascinating looking through these extra files.

Looking forward to an update and hoping to have more games available.

I must say I find them so insanely boring to play.  I think my favourite so far is the Monopoly one, it has some stuff going on and you can gamble to the win spin feature.  I find £100 Grease and Wizard of Oz game frustrating to play.

No disrespect to the emulator developers, the emulator is amazing  

J

[thealteredemu]

Are there any of those fortune spin games that may be emulated.  I’m likely thinking of a different system, maybe the blueprint ones?

J

[stevedude2]

11 minutes ago, Archstered said:

Yeah, for the main part, the £100 communities were/are compensated, most of the £500 T7 games are 'random'. 

All the community 3-reelers are compensated - they have to be because if you messed up wild picks that money would be lost and the game wouldn't achieve RTP%.

[slotsmagic]

Just now, thealteredemu said:

Are there any of those fortune spin games that may be emulated.  I’m likely thinking of a different system, maybe the blueprint ones?

J

Nope. No Barcrest / SG / L&W content on the T7 or T8 had them as far as I'm aware (although I'll confess I'm at least a year out of date on the T8 content now!).

For Barcrest stuff with Premium Play you'd need Equinox cabinets or above, and for Bell Fruit you'd want Astra / Novomatic / Bell Fruit content that runs on either Firefox II, or QuNo. Although again I'm at least a year out of date with them as well, having smashed my cabinets up last year

I do recall seeing that that MVFME was teased with an iPub looking photo or screenshot in the development thread... so perhaps those games may run at some point?

[slotsmagic]

1 minute ago, stevedude2 said:

All the community 3-reelers are compensated - they have to be because if you messed up wild picks that money would be lost and the game wouldn't achieve RTP%.

I get that logic... but then why do we have gambles on our random slots? They should just pay what they will pay, end of. Instead you end up with what we have now, random games you have to have a pre-game gamble on (the Premium Play / Fortune Spins), to get a crap feature, which will have a choice to gamble to improve the feature... to then get a crap win at the end of the feature, which you then have to gamble for a decent win.

The industry basically fucked itself with the over-gamblification in my opinion. Would have been much better to just go back to the older Sec 16 and similar, or perhaps have a single end-of-credit pie-gamble, rather than gamble upon gamble upon gamble.

[Road Hog Mad]

1 hour ago, Graham the goldfish said:

One thing I noticed was that wizard of oz implies you get a better % by using the autoplay.  There's no mention in the help file of higher % for autoplay, though.

I noticed that too, maybe because it plays quicker?

[slotsmagic]

@HongKong Phooey

Minor issue - I played about £350 through Hammer Horror B4 (£250 jackpot) last night, worked absolutely great. 

Just turned my PC on, loaded the same game, and the on screen buttons are not working. The hardware I/O in the other window works, and the game isn't frozen, but all I can do is use space to spin the reels.

Closed it down, tried other games - they all seem to work fine - it's just the Hammer Horror £250 layout that seems to be affected at the moment

[Road Hog Mad]

2 minutes ago, slotsmagic said:

I get that logic... but then why do we have gambles on our random slots? They should just pay what they will pay, end of. Instead you end up with what we have now, random games you have to have a pre-game gamble on (the Premium Play / Fortune Spins), to get a crap feature, which will have a choice to gamble to improve the feature... to then get a crap win at the end of the feature, which you then have to gamble for a decent win.

The industry basically fucked itself with the over-gamblification in my opinion. Would have been much better to just go back to the older Sec 16 and similar, or perhaps have a single end-of-credit pie-gamble, rather than gamble upon gamble upon gamble.

I agree the Sec 16 with no gambles where better.

[superl33ch]

3 minutes ago, slotsmagic said:

@HongKong Phooey

Minor issue - I played about £350 through Hammer Horror B4 (£250 jackpot) last night, worked absolutely great. 

Just turned my PC on, loaded the same game, and the on screen buttons are not working. The hardware I/O in the other window works, and the game isn't frozen, but all I can do is use space to spin the reels.

Closed it down, tried other games - they all seem to work fine - it's just the Hammer Horror £250 layout that seems to be affected at the moment

I have the same issue.  HH 250 has stopped working the same way as yours.

[superl33ch]

17 minutes ago, thealteredemu said:

I find £100 Grease and Wizard of Oz game frustrating to play.

J

I've always had Grease marked internally as the worst community 3-reeler with pots, no wonder it didn't transition to T8.  The community features are incredibly boring.

[always_eight]

Hey guys, 

For some reason Grease and The wizard of Oz are scaled too big and i have no idea how to sort it out lol

Ive loaded it to drive C and play it from there, the others seem to work fine. 

Also i cannot change the credits or see the reels etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

 

[slotsmagic]

 

13 minutes ago, superl33ch said:

I have the same issue.  HH 250 has stopped working the same way as yours.

Also @HongKong Phooey

So it looks like an issue with coordinates, if you see the attached video I can use the touchscreen but I have to click miles off to the right

 

https://youtu.be/jn5b73Nyt9Q

Edited April 13 by slotsmagic

[slotsmagic]

16 minutes ago, superl33ch said:

I've always had Grease marked internally as the worst community 3-reeler with pots, no wonder it didn't transition to T8.  The community features are incredibly boring.

The stake / prize ratio did it no favours. It's technically a B4 / £400 jackpot, but at only £1.40 max per spin, compared to the £2 of most others.

It probably does offer more 'dings' than a lot of games, and possibly more of them result in features, but the feature value seems pretty low for a 'greater than £1 per play' community slot.

[spa]

Grease did go onto the T8s. There's also a game called Lucky Pots that have that weird £1.40 spin

[Ze Frog]

26 minutes ago, superl33ch said:

I have the same issue.  HH 250 has stopped working the same way as yours.

On my laptop, I had similar due to it asking for extra permissions as for some reason windows instinctively blocked it until I ticked for it to use the required permissions for online and offline.

[niallquinn]

41 minutes ago, thealteredemu said:

Are there any of those fortune spin games that may be emulated.  I’m likely thinking of a different system, maybe the blueprint ones?

J

Cough cough cough, see my request in the resources thread, and you may find out!

[vectra666]

2 hours ago, Graham the goldfish said:

One thing I noticed was that wizard of oz implies you get a better % by using the autoplay.  There's no mention in the help file of higher % for autoplay, though.

Can’t play that one yet due to the screen sizes are too big for their frames which is a shame as liked that slot

@HongKong Phooey maybe in a future update the screens could be resized to make he screen resolution or an option of left n right 

also rainbow riches sometimes the screens are ok as in see everythjng other times they go like ruby slipper oz..

[I have finished]

Hi. The T7s I have have a transfer option. How can I do this, preferably a keyboard shortcut as I have no sight, or is this in development? Also I can't press T to change stake or A for autoplay which is odd. Yes the program is on the local c drive in a folder called MVFME. Games do work, but one of them crashed giving me a VGAP error which I have never heard of, even googling it yielded no results. Any help would be nice thanks

[I have finished]

I also forgot to say that C for collect doesn't work in any windows it just puts £1 in and I have to use my screen reader's OCR to tap on collect and I don't think that the max bet key B works either.

[nails]

54 minutes ago, stevedude2 said:

All the community 3-reelers are compensated - they have to be because if you messed up wild picks that money would be lost and the game wouldn't achieve RTP%.

given that astras were random random, and barcrest was compensated random, id disagree with your answer (and im not saying i actually know better), but any loss (the same as gambling a silver pot of say £450 and losing) merely makes the rest of the game more suseptable to wins - untill a win is achived. that £450 isnt lost forever, its merely returned into a much larger pool.

any machine that advertises 100% random, is most probably telling the truth, but its only random within its parameters. 

if your in the know, feel free to tell me im talking out of my...

[superl33ch]

1 hour ago, stevedude2 said:

All the community 3-reelers are compensated - they have to be because if you messed up wild picks that money would be lost and the game wouldn't achieve RTP%.

Not only that but there needs to be a mechanism to deal with the scenario where a 10p play Black Knight on autoplay keeps dragging a £1 black knight played very slowly (by the same player probably) into the bonus, so it needs to be able to correct with dreadful bonuses, and also make back % where necessary.

Edited April 13 by superl33ch

[stevedude2]

3 hours ago, nails said:

given that astras were random random, and barcrest was compensated random, id disagree with your answer (and im not saying i actually know better), but any loss (the same as gambling a silver pot of say £450 and losing) merely makes the rest of the game more suseptable to wins - untill a win is achived. that £450 isnt lost forever, its merely returned into a much larger pool.

any machine that advertises 100% random, is most probably telling the truth, but its only random within its parameters. 

if your in the know, feel free to tell me im talking out of my...

You can disagree if you want but I worked for Astra for 20 years doing game design and maths - some games across that time were random and others were compensated.  All these 3-reel community slots will have 'compensated' on the loading screen, whether Barcrest or Astra/Bell Fruit/Inspired.  It's not just because of the wild picks; it's because the slaves are linked and if the comms fails and a slave drops out of the feature when it was eligible, that lost money stays on the compensator and doesn't get lost.

I join discussions to help people, not peddle opinions as statements of fact.

EDIT - Also what @superl33ch says.  The way the comms talks to the slaves and the way the community trigger mechanism works can also be regarded as a method of compensation.

 

Edited April 13 by stevedude2