dudese Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 (edited) OK so I re read your pm, and I forgot to turn the switch onto v2 loader. So ive tried it again and now this is with f11 off in mvfme: If i then press f11 it does this: The log also says it is using loader2 now. Edited July 2 by dudese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Sorry for the numerous posts, but you can't edit after a short while. Anyway the kiosk now seems to load games exactly like mvfme does. So I'd say the kiosk side of it is fixed. Ive had a play about with the display.ini and now it looks better and doesnt ghost when pressing f11, but its still not right. Hopefully I can play about with it to see what works on this cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 Hey this is great news - I will do a new build - so with F11 on in MVFME, you get full screen but some clipping on the right. I consider this good progress if it's doing exactly what MVFME does as well. We have at least taken a step in the right direction here - thank you for testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 With f11 off on mfvme I have to press f11 once in the kiosk to get it to look as above. With f11 on I have to press it twice in the kiosk. I've also noticed in full screen it hides my toolbar thing on the top right, which it never used to do. Doesnt do it in mvfme directly either. Directly running mvfme has the same kind of process to get the fullscreen as above. Either 1 or 2 f11 presses wont do it from the off for some reason, but I think at this point I need a better display.ini for montezuma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 Ok - I am not going to release just yet, I will make it check MVFME to see what the F11 settings is in the config and do either one or two presses. The .ini for Montezuma, is it like it for all games or just that one - are you facing problems on say older games like Rainbow Riches ? I am asking - as if you are - and you manage to get the right settings, I am wondering if I can get the kiosk to patch those before launch if it had a custom set of values. Just trying to think out the box. Obviously that would be after we get it to deal with this F11 stuff. To fully confirm - the ghosting problem seems resovled with the loader v2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 The ghosting problem seems more to do with a bad display.ini and when you press f11 from what ive learnt. Im not sure the v1 loader was the actual problem as such for that, but using this v2 in the kiosk seems better/is exactly like it loads in mvfme now. Montezuma now displays perfectly. The only problem is you still have to press f11 every time. It looks like when you load up mvfme directly it doesnt remember that its in fullscreen mode. If you load it, press f11, then load montezuma, then it looks sweet. Not tried other games in a while this has been the test one, so my brains a little fried. Just tried RR pure gold, and that ghosts when you press f11. Same with big event, which always used to be fine on 1.1 or 1.2 whatever the old version was. Looks like mvfme2 is causing most of my issues now. Atleast the kiosk is mostly behaving itself now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 OK - so to be very clear, as I am going around in circles here and causing problems. If I add one more option for the V2 Loader which is V2 + F11 and make it send one F11, assuming that F11 hits, it would work for you and your cabinet with MVFME would be as you would like ? Did you change any .ini files for the game or anything as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 (edited) Yeah that would be perfect; for me anyway. I dont know if anyone else is having the problem of mvfme not opening in fullscreen by default. If it did, then that would eliminate the need for f11 in the kiosk. As it stands just one f11 press makes everything fullscreen and perfect in the kiosk. All I did for montezuma was slightly edit the original display.ini. Tried it with big event and that also works. The inis are just a separate issue though I just wanted the kiosk working properly before I start tackling the dodgy games. Edit: I just tried the normal version of the kiosk and it loaded montezuma perfectly with no f11.... im guessing that version already has an f11 press? Edited July 2 by dudese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 OK - so I am trying to fix that F11 for you. With regards to the .ini files, I can do that for you as well. I assume all games use the same .ini, I can patch that as it boots with a selectable option where the paths are setup. Can you give me the updated display.ini you use for this cab - that will help me personally. It won't do it by default you will need to turn that on - this is actually easier than the F11 to sort ATM ! However plan is... Get F11 working... ...test build to you via PM to verify. Then do the option for display patching... ...again get you a test build. Also I am sorry that my cabinet is not working ATM and I really appreciate your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 No that does not - that used a different way to position the window - ok so this is cool - but is it also . I also have one test build I am about to send you to try V2 - F11 please. Let's have options for people as things work differently across different systems it seems. PM incoming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 It's with you. Been thinking, maybe the V1 loader is working better as you change the display ini file ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 (edited) My brains getting fried messing about with all this lol, but thats the only way to learn and figure it out. So I guess the display.ini was the main problem all along then... In terms of the ghosting anyway. That's the problem from what ive learnt.... Some games use a different display.ini, and some people will use different ones depending on screen setup, etc. Its certainly not a 1 ini and job done, but seems like when you get a working one for your system then you can use it for various games of the same type (t7, t8, etc). I've tried the latest test, and it loads like this. Have to press f11 twice for fullscreen now. It still hides my menu thing in fullscreen unlike mvfme direct. Edited July 2 by dudese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 OK - this is nuts as it works on my desktop - different systems do different things. However - you have confirmed that the V1 loader now works ( esp when you modify the .ini ) so that is a fully working solution for you - use the V1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, Reg said: OK - this is nuts as it works on my desktop - different systems do different things. However - you have confirmed that the V1 loader now works ( esp when you modify the .ini ) so that is a fully working solution for you - use the V1 ? Yeah using the last proper build/v1 loader seems to be working the best at the minute. Just not sure about the other games if they will have any issues with the v1 loader, or if the issues purely lie in the display.ini (the ghosting and stuff. Some games are just naturally broken),but thats a task for tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 3 Author Report Share Posted July 3 RELEASED: V1.0.17 Improvements MVFME now has a selector to choose loader for different versions. These represent the major releases of it and set where the path settings belong. There are three options under config on the paths tab. V1 V2 V2+F11 I truly think this is solved now with the help of @dudese and @Road Hog Mad - thank you both. It seems different systems like different things, if one does not work for you, try another. Future changes may include auto-patching of the display.ini ( if you select to do this and it can find the file ). This I would see would be based on choices you manually input in the paths area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 Thanks. I'll try later. Been messing about getting some games looking good. Still not 100% happy with this but it will do. Its not designed for such a small screen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 8 hours ago, dudese said: Thanks. I'll try later. Been messing about getting some games looking good. Still not 100% happy with this but it will do. Its not designed for such a small screen I can't get mine full screen like, can you share your display file please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 1 hour ago, Road Hog Mad said: I can't get mine full screen like, can you share your display file please I'll pm you in a little bit when I fire up the cab again. Can't guarantee it will work on your system, but worth a go. I only somewhat know what im doing, but whatever file im using works so its good enough for me haha. I feel like the star turns banner at the top is still a little too small, but I'd rather that than shrink anything else further. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 39 minutes ago, dudese said: I'll pm you in a little bit when I fire up the cab again. Can't guarantee it will work on your system, but worth a go. I only somewhat know what im doing, but whatever file im using works so its good enough for me haha. I feel like the star turns banner at the top is still a little too small, but I'd rather that than shrink anything else further. It's a strange one, my pc has two monitors, on the portrait monitor it's fine (full screen) then on my cab with the same screen it goes scew wiff, either too small, too big or fails to load. GRRRRRR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 18 minutes ago, Road Hog Mad said: It's a strange one, my pc has two monitors, on the portrait monitor it's fine (full screen) then on my cab with the same screen it goes scew wiff, either too small, too big or fails to load. GRRRRRR! All it takes is for 1 thing to be off in the display.ini and it screws everything. You have to tweak them for each individual system too so its not 1 file for all. Which is making this whole thing very tedious for everyone. I feel like good progress is being made though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 The new version seems to work well. However adding a startup delay seems to make no difference whatever value it's on. It will stay on the loading screen on the kiosk for a bit then switch to the emulator for a few seconds then do its thing and go fullscreen. It all works in the end so it really is a very minor niggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 The "only show matching games in groups" doesnt seem to work. Ive added "community" to the end of all relevant games, then added a new community group with the option on. It shows all the relevent games just fine, but they still show up under slots too. Also still need the search to show the custom icons whenever you do a new version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 5 Author Report Share Posted July 5 Thanks for the feedback - so we need to fix the following... 1. Load delay is not working - that needs fixing for MVFME. 2. When you have custom groups with games, they also show up in slots to ? 3. Search needs to show custom icons. For point two, when you made the group, did you click on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudese Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Reg said: Thanks for the feedback - so we need to fix the following... 1. Load delay is not working - that needs fixing for MVFME. 2. When you have custom groups with games, they also show up in slots to ? 3. Search needs to show custom icons. For point two, when you made the group, did you click on here... Yeah. Its ticked in the options but still not working. Also the icon manager seems to have totally vanished in the latest version. Ctrl + i right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted July 5 Author Report Share Posted July 5 Ah balls - what did I break - yes, CTRL+I, let me look at this and get a fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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