jabbathehut Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 If the companies take a negative view of this then so be it but as the machines are random there isn't much to be learned from playing what will be a glorified demo at the end of the day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsmagic Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Coskey Fruits said: Personally whilst I think this is a great idea, I still prefer my own T7's at home. The YouTube video demonstration was okay of Neptune's Treasure, but would have been better if he had an extended desktop so that the game is not split screen side by side. (Reels on bottom, pots and awards on top monitor) In the not too distant future then, would it not kind of defeat the object of building a T7emu cabinet one day as you may as well just have a T7, cheap enough these days and yes I am still a bit sourpuss about the money I have wasted on my two making them mint, because I won't ever get back nor see the money I paid for them. Particularly buying a spare pc and being shafted for the cost of it by a certain electronics company in Bolton. I have two T7's both on Vertex Hasps and on community gaming at home anyway..so frankly and apologies, this forthcoming project I will have no reason to express an interest in whatsoever. Good for people however who do not have a T7. Think whoever is releasing this I say; will may possibly need to be careful about copyright though and what the now SG gaming (Light and Wonder) may possibly do if they see this. After all they own all the software rights to the BPAKS. I'm all for people having a blast and not hurting themselves really badly in the pocket in doing so, but you have to consider that these machines are still live and plentiful in arcades all over the country and taking money. I have an incline that Light and Wonder won't want this ability being made free of charge to just anyone, rather than taking money in the arcades. How are they equally getting past the hasp issue, because if the all games play in a workaround without being in demo mode, this could also raise eyebrows with licensing and copyright laws. I would not want DIF to be getting into hot water for endorsing and supporting such. But there again, there are loads of demo games online of popular slots on online casinos before you actually start playing for real money. Just saying, working or not this needs to be approached with care not just excitement and enthusiasm T7 hasn't had any new BPAKs since about 2017 from memory. Nearly 10 years. I think the last ones were probably Grease, Jackpot Party and Friends community slots. As for it not being as good as owning T7s - no shit Sherlock. I'm sure many of us would love unlimited space and unlimited cash to own unlimited machines that never went wrong. But we don't, or can't, so we have emulation. On the subject of T7s, I lost a fortune on mine, back when I paid top whack for hacked content, PCs that died, and all that. It's the risk you take. Edited March 19 by slotsmagic 1 Attempting to quit gambling since January 1st 2025. Lapse on Wednesday 12th November 2025 Lapse on Tuesday 13th January 2026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) Sad that in order for my two T7's to be worth even £200 to £250 each less than what I paid for them, these days they would both need to have been fitted with NV11 note recyclers and taking the King's note. Should have bloody waited for this T7EMU myself......Dayerm!!!!! live and learn!!! Might sell my vertex hasps soon and scrap the machines. I would like an MFME cabinet now I think Edited March 19 by Coskey Fruits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, jabbathehut said: If the companies take a negative view of this then so be it but as the machines are random there isn't much to be learned from playing what will be a glorified demo at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Elvis Top 20 here we come! Excellent news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Be great if we can make our own cabinets with these in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 49 minutes ago, Coskey Fruits said: Personally whilst I think this is a great idea, I still prefer my own T7's at home. The YouTube video demonstration was okay of Neptune's Treasure, but would have been better if he had an extended desktop so that the game is not split screen side by side. (Reels on bottom, pots and awards on top monitor) In the not too distant future then, would it not kind of defeat the object of building a T7emu cabinet one day as you may as well just have a T7, cheap enough these days and yes I am still a bit sourpuss about the money I have wasted on my two making them mint, because I won't ever get back nor see the money I paid for them. Particularly buying a spare pc and being shafted for the cost of it by a certain electronics company in Bolton. I have two T7's both on Vertex Hasps and on community gaming at home anyway..so frankly and apologies, this forthcoming project I will have no reason to express an interest in whatsoever. Good for people however who do not have a T7. Think whoever is releasing this I say; will may possibly need to be careful about copyright though and what the now SG gaming (Light and Wonder) may possibly do if they see this. After all they own all the software rights to the BPAKS. I'm all for people having a blast and not hurting themselves really badly in the pocket in doing so, but you have to consider that these machines are still live and plentiful in arcades all over the country and taking money. I have an incline that Light and Wonder won't want this ability being made free of charge to just anyone, rather than taking money in the arcades. How are they equally getting past the hasp issue, because if the all games play in a workaround without being in demo mode, this could also raise eyebrows with licensing and copyright laws. I would not want DIF to be getting into hot water for endorsing and supporting such. But there again, there are loads of demo games online of popular slots on online casinos before you actually start playing for real money. Just saying, working or not this needs to be approached with care not just excitement and enthusiasm Afternoon some very good points raised. With regards to the screen layout this is exactly how the t7 draws them. It’s running windows xp on an extended desktop with the top on the left. So as long as you have two monitors of the same resolution laid out the same way it will give the same layout. Maybe the rendering could be changed but way out of scope of the project at the moment the emulator will never be shipped with bpaks or unpacked games. It is down to the user to provide legally owned games from their own cabinet the same as any emulator rom. And as I said we are not looking at getting any games running that are on equinox or t8 still out there earning money even though the versions will be way older on the t7 hope that answers your questions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 51 minutes ago, Coskey Fruits said: Sad that in order for my two T7's to be worth even £200 to £250 each less than what I paid for them, these days they would both need to have been fitted with NV11 note recyclers and taking the King's note. Should have bloody waited for this T7EMU myself......Dayerm!!!!! live and learn!!! Might sell my vertex hasps soon and scrap the machines. I would like an MFME cabinet now I think Turn the t7 into an mfme cabinet. Have two pcs, one for t7 and one for mfme and swap them out as required problem solved 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Sadly I don't have any experience in cabinet building. I am fairly intermediate with computers, but the programming, coin mech and hoppers etc could prove to be beyond my understanding or comprehension. Thanks for the insight and the idea though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 I remember mostly the original rio elvis top 20, rainbow riches etc. Would be happy with those, I also like golden relic. Be ideal if this can be set up similar to mfme and working I our cabs! Great news, keep the updates coming. Do we have an eta on a version 1 release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 12 minutes ago, Road Hog Mad said: I remember mostly the original rio elvis top 20, rainbow riches etc. Would be happy with those, I also like golden relic. Be ideal if this can be set up similar to mfme and working I our cabs! Great news, keep the updates coming. Do we have an eta on a version 1 release? As I said before the issue with cabinet builds is the way the t7 had the monitors set up. If you have a single screen in portrait mode then you will end up with two very thin tall screens side by side on the screen. We may be able to sort out the rendering and get them one on top of the other but actually this is the way it’s drawn on the real machine so cabinets may be difficult with mfme in. but i do believe that most video slot cabinets use a similar way of rendering especially the older ones so a change now might not be wise for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Hog Mad Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, HongKong Phooey said: As I said before the issue with cabinet builds is the way the t7 had the monitors set up. If you have a single screen in portrait mode then you will end up with two very thin tall screens side by side on the screen. We may be able to sort out the rendering and get them one on top of the other but actually this is the way it’s drawn on the real machine so cabinets may be difficult with mfme in. but i do believe that most video slot cabinets use a similar way of rendering especially the older ones so a change now might not be wise for the future Regardless, we are all grateful and await the updates and progress ans a personal thank you from me! Something I've been on getting running from day dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo1 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 £500 pots when they first come out like Elvis top 20, cashino, slotto....hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Doing a quick scan of the games I have. Created a tool that extracts the build date from the game so I know the exact dates. Early stuff includes New York new york Rainbow riches Cashino Big Bucks Grand casino Golden charms Monty python High five Tooty fruity OAD RiPeater cat c monty python cat c cashino delux 500 challenge curse of Frankenstein mummy money cashino cat c neptunes treasure price is right rainbow riches WBSD Hammer house of horror cat c rainbow riches FOG neptunes treasure cat c these all have best chance of running at the moment 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infection Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Cleopatra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 The timing... i recently had an itch to play Black Knight so started work of extracting the the textures out the btex and created a sim: really looking forward to this as i had to get rid of both my t7's (well 1.5 of them i kept the front of one of them for a mfme cab) as i had to move great work and as others have said brings life back into the scene and thankfully now they can be preserved. on a side note, i have some extracted games if required pm me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 23 minutes ago, Ross said: The timing... i recently had an itch to play Black Knight so started work of extracting the the textures out the btex and created a sim: really looking forward to this as i had to get rid of both my t7's (well 1.5 of them i kept the front of one of them for a mfme cab) as i had to move great work and as others have said brings life back into the scene and thankfully now they can be preserved. on a side note, i have some extracted games if required pm me. Nice work on that sim. Did you get any issues with the btex files getting the transparency right? Funny enough trying to write a sim was exactly how this project started and it just spiralled from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 28 minutes ago, infection said: Cleopatra? Can’t see that in my list of games. Isn’t that equinox and very recent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infection Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Not sure i last remember playing it on sky Vegas back in early 2000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 18 minutes ago, HongKong Phooey said: Nice work on that sim. Did you get any issues with the btex files getting the transparency right? Funny enough trying to write a sim was exactly how this project started and it just spiralled from there. i did have a go myself for a few days but didn't get very far and as i don't have much free time these days so thought i would give AI a go and got results in 2 hours. if you are curious i can send over the PowerShell extractors: i have also got a repacker (not tested on a real machine yet) as i was going to buy another T7 when i move to my new place (moving again soon) and make some bootlegs haha. on a side note, is the emulator using extracted games or can it extract .bpaks?, only ask as i did try extracting from the base bpak and didn't get close. Edited March 19 by Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spa Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 23 minutes ago, infection said: Not sure i last remember playing it on sky Vegas back in early 2000s Not a T7 game 1 https://www.facebook.com/groups/264122764904452/?epa=SEARCH_BOX Fruit Machine Discussion - Facebook Group. Please Join! https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzZMCJWHMHMBR3ZTMTBIQTdwWUU?resourcekey=0-r05o9PhddyeqWBP_32I0LQ&usp=sharing My Google Drive. Lots of Fruit/Digital machine files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nails Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 cant wait for this - whats everybodys favorite rio/t7 game ? mine was the original rio ca$hino 500. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 7 hours ago, wearecity said: Is this the sort of machines that Rainbow Riches first appeared on. Also the Monty Python video slot? well this one is close. Boots, takes credit but quits on pressing start but it has decided the order of games. It makes total sense to work on release date order. Barcrest added to the DLL file with new features as they were needed so start with the basic games and add in extra commands as we go down the list 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKong Phooey Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 24 minutes ago, Ross said: i did have a go myself for a few days but didn't get very far and as i don't have much free time these days so thought i would give AI a go and got results in 2 hours. if you are curious i can send over the PowerShell extractors: i have also got a repacker (not tested on a real machine yet) as i was going to buy another T7 when i move to my new place (moving again soon) and make some bootlegs haha. on a side note, is the emulator using extracted games or can it extract .bpaks?, only ask as i did try extracting from the base bpak and didn't get close. The aim is to have it use bpaks because that way we know it’s safe files and match the wrapper code the issue with the repacker is the files may have a checksum stored somewhere and will know if they have been altered did you get anywhere with decrypting and understanding machine_logic.barc? Did you find the second barc file in the file which is encrypted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infection Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 26 minutes ago, spa said: Not a T7 game Ah ok I only remember playing sky Vegas on interaction menu years back. Cashino was one Rainbow riches if it one with pot of gold trail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts