Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) Hi all, we had one of these machines back in the day at the Palace over 18's in Rhyl. (Brand spanking new) and un-bashed in by the hands of hammering grannies.....It was a big deal as the owners were giving out cheat and hint cards to encourage players to part with their cash and have a go. Used to give out loads in a good mood, but then they changed something in the programme and from then on it went which in my opinion is typical of HB Leisure allegedly to do something like this....spoil sports There are hints displayed on the top glass of the machine in the images below, in which it states 000 gives 3 nudges 0X0 hold X for XXX etc... I am asking if firstly we have a ROM of this for v20.1 and the XXX pay £5 instead of £2 as seen below and The 3 Astra's give £10 instead of a fiver. The only other cheat I learned from someone is that if 3 XXX's hold you let them go and there is a 60/40 chance that the Astra's will come in. If the Astra's then come in and they hold, you let them go for Jackpot, but I have done this before and lost and it span a losing spin in when NOT holding the Astra's, LETTING THEM GO!. Nearly always worked on the X's and Astra's span in. Does anyone else know any fangled brilliance of knowledgable advantages or undisclosed hints to manipulate this machine please and I was wondering if so could they please share them here. Does a weird nudge flash symbol on the top glass sometimes and other flash hints on the reels, in which frankly for me have never worked and I ended up with fcuk all when it happened, probably because I never worked out how to do what the machine was asking me to do in that hint. I am also requesting that; Please can this layout be done again in version 20.1 if the £10 and £5 ROMS have surfaced after Dad's earlier layout below. The jackpot evidently at £25.00 for both layouts. It looks a bit grainy in v 6.0 and you have to zoom in because it's not the biggest of layouts,in which (when zooming) the quality...well it just gets worse. I love this machine so requesting this for myself please if anyone would like to help or do this layout. I will be the first in the que to beta test and download. This is a layout by @dadso I guess in accordance it would have to be a collaboration with Andy. Anyone fancy having a go please? Massive thanks to all layout creators again for wonderful work and keeping us all happy. Respect and massive shout and thanks to Wizard for his wonderful emulator. Don't just download...post and get involved 2026 Thank you. C.F. Edited January 26 by Coskey Fruits text edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Yeah It's a crap layout done from a crap flyer. I said in my release thread it was sub-standard. If you can find some decent photos I'll gladly have another go at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logopolis Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) Ah Classic Slot! Yes, this is a machine with a full empty! The original program has a setup where it gives a £10 free bar win. You need the bar 2 above on the 1st reel and the bar 3 above 3rd reel. Then it should hold because 000 on the line, so hold reel 1 and reel 3. Bar drops in 2nd reel. The machine will give nudges. Use 2 nudges to bring the bar down on 1st reel and leave. Bar drops down 3 places on 3rd reel. The next program doesn't drop the bar down on the winline on the 3rd reel. The existing layout by DAD had the chipped program so I found the original rom and loaded it into the layout, but there was an error. I contacted DAD about this a couple of years ago and he got the original program running in the layout. The only thing was the bars awarded a £5 win as per the layout decal. So, I found the DIP switch to change the bars to £10 which is what they were in the arcades. I can't remember which switch it was off the top of my head. Basically the new layout just needs to change the bars to £10 and also the Xs to £5. Edited January 26 by logopolis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginge Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Coskey Fruits said: Hi all, we had one of these machines back in the day at the Palace over 18's in Rhyl. (Brand spanking new) and un-bashed in by the hands of hammering grannies.....It was a big deal as the owners were giving out cheat and hint cards to encourage players to part with their cash and have a go. Used to give out loads in a good mood, but then they changed something in the programme and from then on it went which in my opinion is typical of HB Leisure allegedly to do something like this....spoil sports What year was this ? I Worked for HB leisure at the palace 1990-2005. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logopolis Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 I just found in my notes what all the switches do. 1 on is Xs £5 and Bars £10. off is Xs £2 and Bars £5 2 on makes machine dim in attract mode 4 on is sec 7 on changes to bingo program 8 on is auto pay out 14 on is 50 credits auto play and if 15 on is auto play in demo mode 15 on demo mode without auto play but if 14 on is demo mode auto play 16 on and it goes blank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, Ginge said: What year was this ? I Worked for HB leisure at the palace 1990-2005. Yeah was the late 1998 - 2000's I think. If you are the engineer that I possibly think you are, when they also had OXO crazy reels in the JP lounge, then went to work for Les Harker, I know who you are and we have met Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, logopolis said: I just found in my notes what all the switches do. 1 on is Xs £5 and Bars £10. off is Xs £2 and Bars £5 2 on makes machine dim in attract mode 4 on is sec 7 on changes to bingo program 8 on is auto pay out 14 on is 50 credits auto play and if 15 on is auto play in demo mode 15 on demo mode without auto play but if 14 on is demo mode auto play 16 on and it goes blank Wow thanks for this, shall give it a bash in a bit. Much better on £5 x's and £10 bars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, logopolis said: Ah Classic Slot! Yes, this is a machine with a full empty! The original program has a setup where it gives a £10 free bar win. You need the bar 2 above on the 1st reel and the bar 3 above 3rd reel. Then it should hold because 000 on the line, so hold reel 1 and reel 3. Bar drops in 2nd reel. The machine will give nudges. Use 2 nudges to bring the bar down on 1st reel and leave. Bar drops down 3 places on 3rd reel. The next program doesn't drop the bar down on the winline on the 3rd reel. The existing layout by DAD had the chipped program so I found the original rom and loaded it into the layout, but there was an error. I contacted DAD about this a couple of years ago and he got the original program running in the layout. The only thing was the bars awarded a £5 win as per the layout decal. So, I found the DIP switch to change the bars to £10 which is what they were in the arcades. I can't remember which switch it was off the top of my head. Basically the new layout just needs to change the bars to £10 and also the Xs to £5. So does this mean then that Dad eventually got the un chipped original programme to work then? I'd love this layout with new decals if possible please :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) 4 hours ago, dad said: Yeah It's a crap layout done from a crap flyer. I said in my release thread it was sub-standard. If you can find some decent photos I'll gladly have another go at it. Sorry Andy, I did not mean to sound ungrateful as it's a good game to play. It's the only layout of this on the scene, so grateful it is here at all. I was just messaging @logopolis to see if the original empty ROM was available and could be implemented into the layout. @logopolishas provided a list of dip switches to change the values to xxx's £5 and Astras to a £10, be great to have a crisp larger layout of this for v 20.1 and the original full empty ROM. This defo needs a new DX for 2026 Does anyone have any decent images of this machine anywhere please, as @dadsaid he would have a go at it for version 20.1, that is of course if the un-chipped original ROM with the full empty will also work for this layout...in which I certainly be a candiate for beta testing and front of the que for a download....Yes please!!!! Edited January 26 by Coskey Fruits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logopolis Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Just now, Coskey Fruits said: So does this mean then that Dad eventually got the un chipped original programme to work then? I'd love this layout with new decals if possible please We actually have roms for 10 or 11 different program numbers. The rom in DAD's layout was V202 which is the rechip. I found the V101 rom and loaded it into the layout but it came up with some kind of error. I sent it to DAD and he got it working. These are the 2 different versions working. The Decals for the Bars and Xs are wrong but otherwise it's all good. Classic Slot both versions.zip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 To @logopolis So which version please in this download will I know is the un-chipped version please? The one in your reply where you talk about the bars on reel 1 and reel 3 before the programme got chipped. I presume to chip out this full-empty!! This is probably what HB Leisure did to stop it going empty all the time then? This is cool. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, logopolis said: We actually have roms for 10 or 11 different program numbers. The rom in DAD's layout was V202 which is the rechip. I found the V101 rom and loaded it into the layout but it came up with some kind of error. I sent it to DAD and he got it working. These are the 2 different versions working. The Decals for the Bars and Xs are wrong but otherwise it's all good. Classic Slot both versions.zip 4.51 MB · 0 downloads Wow thank you :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logopolis Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 8 minutes ago, Coskey Fruits said: To @logopolis So which version please in this download will I know is the un-chipped version please? The one in your reply where you talk about the bars on reel 1 and reel 3 before the programme got chipped. I presume to chip out this full-empty!! This is probably what HB Leisure did to stop it going empty all the time then? This is cool. Thanks V101 is the unchipped version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 (edited) @logopolis Have the dip switches already been set to the xxx's at a fiver and astras a tenner in this layout or shall I need to dip some switches please? Also this V101 must be the one where the £10 in a certain win combination registers as a free win, so does not affect percentage or payout I guess.... Is this why this has full empty then? Thanks for everything so far. C.F. Taking dog out for a wee, then gonna get playing If this is the case... if only I'd known back in the day when it first came into H B Palace Rhyl, it was probably defo on V101 ROM and I could of got my own back on the Bastards for all the money they have had out of me over the years (Talking thousands and thousands)..... because of my own addictive behaviour and stupidity. They sucked me dry like a leech back in the day...silly bugger I was Should of waited until 2026 then I could have played party time, maggie 7's and all these games for free on emulation.......but that's life I guess. Still great to play these for free without the risk of losing any money like back then Edited January 26 by Coskey Fruits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logopolis Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 23 minutes ago, Coskey Fruits said: @logopolis Have the dip switches already been set to the xxx's at a fiver and astras a tenner in this layout or shall I need to dip some switches please? Also this V101 must be the one where the £10 in a certain win combination registers as a free win, so does not affect percentage or payout I guess.... Is this why this has full empty then? Thanks for everything so far. C.F. Taking dog out for a wee, then gonna get playing If this is the case... if only I'd known back in the day when it first came into H B Palace Rhyl, it was probably defo on V101 ROM and I could of got my own back on the Bastards for all the money they have had out of me over the years (Talking thousands and thousands)..... because of my own addictive behaviour and stupidity. They sucked me dry like a leech back in the day...silly bugger I was Should of waited until 2026 then I could have played party time, maggie 7's and all these games for free on emulation.......but that's life I guess. Still great to play these for free without the risk of losing any money like back then The DIP switch 1 is on which means the bars are £10 and xs are £5. Yes, V101 has the bar win I mentioned in a post above and this is free which does not affect the percentage. You can see it's free because the 000 hold will still be there provided you are not taking wins and only taking this free win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 4 hours ago, logopolis said: I just found in my notes what all the switches do. 1 on is Xs £5 and Bars £10. off is Xs £2 and Bars £5 2 on makes machine dim in attract mode 4 on is sec 7 on changes to bingo program 8 on is auto pay out 14 on is 50 credits auto play and if 15 on is auto play in demo mode 15 on demo mode without auto play but if 14 on is demo mode auto play 16 on and it goes blank What does sec mean and what is a bingo programme please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logopolis Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 Sec is in the configuration. If switch 4 is on then you have to set the sec to yes in configuration. Not entirely sure what it is, maybe something to do with the coin mech? The bingo program is just a different profile where the machine might play slightly different. Also, the bingo program might only switch to 30p stake. Most program versions have a separate bingo rom which only has the 30p stake. We don't have a bingo rom for the V101 but we have the bingo roms for most other program versions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitsnappa Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 SEC is the meter 2 ᗧ···ᗣ···ᗣ···ᗣ···ᗣ·· Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginge Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, Coskey Fruits said: Yeah was the late 1998 - 2000's I think. If you are the engineer that I possibly think you are, when they also had OXO crazy reels in the JP lounge, then went to work for Les Harker, I know who you are and we have met Yes this is me . Are you from the local area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginge Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, Coskey Fruits said: came into H B Palace Rhyl, it was probably defo on V101 ROM and I could of got my own back on the Bastards for all the money they have had out of me over the years (Talking thousands and thousands)..... because of my own addictive behaviour and stupidity For the life of me I can’t think who you are give me a clue . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vectra666 Posted January 27 Report Share Posted January 27 (edited) @infection you have any images loitering about in astra files Edited January 27 by vectra666 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 19 hours ago, logopolis said: Sec is in the configuration. If switch 4 is on then you have to set the sec to yes in configuration. Not entirely sure what it is, maybe something to do with the coin mech? The bingo program is just a different profile where the machine might play slightly different. Also, the bingo program might only switch to 30p stake. Most program versions have a separate bingo rom which only has the 30p stake. We don't have a bingo rom for the V101 but we have the bingo roms for most other program versions. It was a good play last night, trying different things out. I did two RAM clears. You was right about the Astra's r1 2 nudges away r3 3 nudges away. I also worked out some other little tricks instead of holding ooo. This ROM plays at 25p play per go. I had good fun on it. Thanks @logopolis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coskey Fruits Posted January 28 Author Report Share Posted January 28 (edited) 17 hours ago, Ginge said: For the life of me I can’t think who you are give me a clue . It really doesn't matter any more, but I asked to be barred for life from The Palace and from Monte Carlo, I was not good on any machine. I was addicted and destroying myself. You kept me out one day when I came wandering in and saved me from losing more money. Craig Harker was the one that helped with the self exclusion and you and a few other members of staff at other times at the Monte asked me to leave. Craig Yews Manager of Palace at time, has also been great in stopping me from spending and kicked me out a couple of times when I had stupidly tried to sneak back in. 'There is no money in it....he said! He actually cared I think about what happened to me, because I think he had see me many times on my arse with a face like stink and upset because I was broke, probably knew I was not working at the time either. I had really low times when I could not keep out of the Palace, I drove my much loved girlfriend away from me, because I was so obsessed with the slots, this was also when Big 7's 'Electrocoin' were on £10 Jackpot and 'Roller Coaster' etc..right up to when the new £25 jackpot came in. I remember Loz used to call the bingo in the Monte. Monte Carlo been sold now, although agreement I think was to keep the name and Les Harker above the door. Any way this is good therapy for me, and although bringing back some upsetting thoughts and memories, the plus side is that: the short term memory and forgetting the pain and damage I inflicted on myself and others as a result of my feverish activity is one of the classic symptoms of a compulsive gambler. Admittedly, I should not really be on here as it is technically tempting or testing myself. I happen to think that because it does not involve me spending any money and I still get to play the games without more misery and more pain....and have the odd chat or two on here....(What harm can it do). I've been going to G.A now on and off since 2008, and although I have rolled on and rolled off the programme like a Ferry and relapsed many times, this period of abstinence I am on now is the longest I have been without a bet. 4 October 2024 was my last slip. I have a meeting tomorrow night 28.1.2026. I honestly thought you might have been Rob Ginge from LLandudno, he was a big player on the Pier and in the Royal and Fifth Ave in Llandudno. His parents used to or 'maybe still do' run or own the Alex hotel in Llandudno, but I know you are not him and the engineer that used to work in the arcades in Rhyl....sometimes it's a small world man. Don't worry about who I am, I'm harmless and insignificant now. Also getting old. Too old to be childish (A fool to myself) and losing money in slots in arcades. After all the definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is it not? Edited January 28 by Coskey Fruits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginge Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 @dad I have your layout with modified £5 and £10 decals inserted and also have one with £5/£10/£15 which I use for private use and never shared, would it be ok to post them here ? . I understand if not as its your work but with a decal change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad Posted January 28 Report Share Posted January 28 Fine by me, not a problem 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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