Altharic Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 32 minutes ago, niallquinn said: This coder, blueonesaresafer, is it someone we know? Cos they haven't submitted much, just to mpu3 that I can see. That said, I find a git a pain in the arse, as they never document what's actually been done. I find the whole mame PR thing pointless makes it hard to get in stuff the reviewers aren't interested in black box for example sat there nearly a year then they picked holes in it and asked a load of changes how to make someone say "fuck it" and no bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealteredemu Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) They should have really updated the Atari FF, it was a true 32bit machine I believe, it was faster than he Falcon, but the falcon had superior sound and graphics. I think the FF was aimed more as a business/music machine. I used a basic Atari ST FM with Cubase back in the day. I then upgraded to the Amiga purely for the tracker based music software. J Edited January 12 by thealteredemu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealteredemu Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 If mame fruit side of things was a paid gig it would be amazing a lot further on. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altharic Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 16 minutes ago, thealteredemu said: They should have really updated the Atari FF, it was a true 32bit machine I believe, it was faster than he Falcon, but the falcon had superior sound and graphics. I think the FF was aimed more as a business/music machine. I used a basic Atari ST FM with Cubase back in the day. I then upgraded to the Amiga purely for the tracker based music software. J Think you mean the TT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealteredemu Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Yes, lol I did I guess the Falcon made sense for cost purposes, again it's a shame it wasn't a commerical success, I think they could have been a major player. I mean, same with SEGA, they kind of lost their way. The Dreamcast was pretty groundbreaking console, sadly not a huge success, I got one when they first came out and Soul Caliber blew me away it was pretty insane. So many great games on that system, not sure what went wrong. Marketing? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec1962 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 3 hours ago, Altharic said: I find the whole mame PR thing pointless makes it hard to get in stuff the reviewers aren't interested in black box for example sat there nearly a year then they picked holes in it and asked a load of changes how to make someone say "fuck it" and no bother. There are quite a few people who think that, including me. FME in MAME would be much further on than it is now without having to jump through hoops. If I'd done the black box emulation I would've withdrawn it after all the messing around they did. I gave up on it long ago unless it's a really simple fix and even then I've had them moan about extra or missing spaces in "if" statements and similar irrelevant stuff. Makes you wonder whether it'd be a better option to do a version concentrating on FME ? Edited January 12 by dec1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altharic Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 54 minutes ago, dec1962 said: There are quite a few people who think that, including me. FME in MAME would be much further on than it is now without having to jump through hoops. If I'd done the black box emulation I would've withdrawn it after all the messing around they did. I gave up on it long ago unless it's a really simple fix and even then I've had them moan about extra or missing spaces in "if" statements and similar irrelevant stuff. Makes you wonder whether it'd be a better option to do a version concentrating on FME ? Which is how it once was, AGEMAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec1962 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Yes, I never really understood the reasons for merging AGEMAME back into MAME 'blueonesarefaster' previously added the BFG dot matrix vfd to MAME. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altharic Posted January 12 Author Report Share Posted January 12 11 minutes ago, dec1962 said: Yes, I never really understood the reasons for merging AGEMAME back into MAME 'blueonesarefaster' previously added the BFG dot matrix vfd to MAME. Seems he is a busy lad.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 Sorry to bring up the Atari Falcon again , its down fall was down to it being aimed at the business market. The germans strongly beleaved this was a business computer not a games machine. The rest of europe agreeded this is nothing like the amiga and st. It`s more as like mac`s are for DTP etc. This was from a mag that i use to buy called the edge may of been another mag. It definitely stated that. I`m amiga man give me a A4000 040 or a 060 any day. Both CBM and Atari where both brilliant computer manufacturers. Moving back to earth, So mame and mfme are now comming together as one. Could this also be our dear chris`s dream of other mpu`s being added into the mix and all are now being finished. Mpu1,2, Tripple M ,Pluto`s and scorp 6. Aswell the whole system being ported to mobile devices. Thanks to mame running on mobile devices. or have i just been to mixed up with the atari thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealteredemu Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Altharic said: Seems he is a busy lad.... Isn’t that actually Scorp5, looks like Vecs release? J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondplayer Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 3 hours ago, Altharic said: Seems he is a busy lad.... 1 hour ago, thealteredemu said: Isn’t that actually Scorp5, looks like Vecs release? J Initially I thought exactly the same but the coloured LED on the reels are working on this one (IIRC they don't on the Vectra release). Please comment @vectra666 In any case sorry to be harsh but why is he wasting time with games that already exist as scorp 5. How about getting some scorp 6 BFG releases going. Your box will be CASHPOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsmagic Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 (edited) 46 minutes ago, dondplayer said: Initially I thought exactly the same but the coloured LED on the reels are working on this one (IIRC they don't on the Vectra release). Please comment @vectra666 In any case sorry to be harsh but why is he wasting time with games that already exist as scorp 5. How about getting some scorp 6 BFG releases going. I'm not that technical... but I wonder if perhaps Betcom / Blueprint / Reflex software on Scorpion 6 might be less protected? Perhaps it's a case of starting with the easiest** stuff and then trying to get the harder bits going once you know you've got the basics covered? It is interesting in any case. Scorpion 6 is, in UK terms at least, almost dead. I assume it's just Reflex and Electrocoin using it now? I've no technical experience inside the most recent BX7 e.t.c. but I'm sure they build them on Scorpion 6 now, rather than the old Z80 architecture. Edited January 13 by slotsmagic Happy non-gambler since 1st January 2025! (if anyone else needs or wants to quit, I recommend Allen Carr's 'Easyway to Stop Gambling'. Still happy to dump ROMs for people and that sort of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbathehut Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Its a process . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealteredemu Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Oh I see a Cobra 3 emu video too, interesting stuff J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altharic Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 58 minutes ago, thealteredemu said: Oh I see a Cobra 3 emu video too, interesting stuff J I'd love to play that again thankfully there is a cd from that in the swp set so possibly playable at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitsnappa Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 17 hours ago, thealteredemu said: Isn’t that actually Scorp5, looks like Vecs release? J It does show SC6 on the alpha whilst initializing. 1 ᗧ···ᗣ···ᗣ···ᗣ···ᗣ·· Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealteredemu Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Wow, this is great, possibly a new emulator coder breaking through. Or maybe an old one? I'd love to see Pluto 6 emulated. Shame they don't post on here. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altharic Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 23 minutes ago, thealteredemu said: Wow, this is great, possibly a new emulator coder breaking through. Or maybe an old one? I'd love to see Pluto 6 emulated. Shame they don't post on here. J Also no evidence they plan to release as I have previously touched on mame is notorious for being a bitch to get stuff published in it miss a semi colon and it sits there a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsmagic Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 4 hours ago, thealteredemu said: Oh I see a Cobra 3 emu video too, interesting stuff J Yes!!! I remember all the stupid clips and things from it!! So glad it's working, and don't feel bad about not being able to dump my CD. Good game, I also liked Telly Addicts which may have been the same hardware? But TOTP is one I played a lot with dad, and then bought the very machine we used to play together. Lots of good memories of it Happy non-gambler since 1st January 2025! (if anyone else needs or wants to quit, I recommend Allen Carr's 'Easyway to Stop Gambling'. Still happy to dump ROMs for people and that sort of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealteredemu Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Altharic said: Also no evidence they plan to release as I have previously touched on mame is notorious for being a bitch to get stuff published in it miss a semi colon and it sits there a year. I hope they do. I can’t see the point in putting a vid up if it’s just for personal use. Would be a shame if it wasn’t for future release. Who knows what else they have emulated. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altharic Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 barcrest\mpu3.cpp: Correct 100hz signal to pia6821 ic3 (#13215) * Correct 100hz signal to pia6821 ic3 * Correct 50hz comment * Correct toggling of 100hz and comment games which fail on boot It's in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dad Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 Could it be either Dialtone, Re-Animator or Guitar? They are the only coders I know who would spend time on Fruit Machines. The Video at first I thought was fake but looking at it again I'm pretty sure its genuine. However it's one thing converting a SC5 layout to a SC6, what about Dev tools etc.. I feel that if a full blown emulator release is forthcoming It'll be a long way off, but I'd love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altharic Posted January 13 Author Report Share Posted January 13 There are mfme to mame dev tools @johnparker007 has been writing them for quite some time nothing to stop a dev using mfme as basis then editing the .lay file for any lamp changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsmagic Posted January 13 Report Share Posted January 13 1 hour ago, dad said: Could it be either Dialtone, Re-Animator or Guitar? They are the only coders I know who would spend time on Fruit Machines. The Video at first I thought was fake but looking at it again I'm pretty sure its genuine. However it's one thing converting a SC5 layout to a SC6, what about Dev tools etc.. I feel that if a full blown emulator release is forthcoming It'll be a long way off, but I'd love to see it. Could be any of them, but could also be someone else? Maybe just a competent programmer who fancied picking up some techs that hadn't been covered. That Cobra 3 looks bang on, having owned the machine. The clips and graphics are spot on. If it was just that it could look suspect, but the gameplay looks correct too. The only bit that looks weird watching it back is the fact it doesn't have onscreen controls, with the original machine having buttons rather than any sort of touchscreen interface. I assume they are being emulated off-screen (keypresses, or part of the GUI we can't see on video). Whoever it is or why they are doing it, I'm still happy to see it, and hopeful that it'll see the light of day at some point. Scorp 6 doesn't bother me at all, machines were dead by that point for me anyway. But Cobra 3? Mmmmmmm. Happy non-gambler since 1st January 2025! (if anyone else needs or wants to quit, I recommend Allen Carr's 'Easyway to Stop Gambling'. Still happy to dump ROMs for people and that sort of stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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