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On 13/02/2022 at 07:12, Road Hog Mad said:

I think fruit machines should be adults anyway, why let children gamble?

Kind of agree, except ticket machines are still gambling really, albeit with really low percentages. A £5 jackpot machine at least gives them better odds. Plus with the way online casinos are allowed to bombard people with endless aggressive advertising, anyone who will be susceptible to gambling addiction most certainly will fall a foul wether they have ever played a £5 fruit machine or not.

Don't get me wrong, it would make great sense of the rest of the industry was targeted as well, yet it's not. It's not about £5 machines, it's about the big online casinos and bookie's who lobby/bribe members of parliament to remove what competition there could possibly be, it's part of the reason the fruit machine is dead. Also imagine, you have a massive gambling addiction, then the £5 machines disappear leaving only big jackpot machines and online... it's all very calculated and nothing about it is gambling prevention. If anything ticket machines are designed to lure even more so, as it's not money payout it seems harmless, the addiction becomes something nobody ever sees coming.

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redemption machines are a massive money spinner. For starters you would expect to find a 72% payout machine in the first place, but they you have way over prices prizes so its a double whammy. 

A 10p chuppa chump or however its spelt can expect to shift at 100 tickets, or £1. this was purchased at 10p. then factor in how much money it costs to get 100 tickets. could cost you double , so a 10p lolly could cost you £2.

* i cant remeember if i posted it in this thread or elsewhere, but an arcade in Hemsby had a mini-moto bike up for grabs. This young boy came in every day and granny gave him £XXX per day. eventually after many months he accumulated enough tickets and exchanged for the bike in question.

After speaking to the manager, they said that they couldnt wait for him to win it, explaiing it was becoming embarrasing as to that point he had spent £13,000 chasing a bike that they bought from the wholesalers for £600.

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Ticket machines are only 30% payout lol so £1 in 30p in tickets out (30) a chubba lolly costs upwards of 50tickets to redeem as said costing the punter £2 or more to win of course the blackjacks and fruit salads are 5tickets each which normally cost 2p 

a fruit machine is a fruit machine whether it’s cash or not, and the addiction isn’t in the fruit machine itself,  it’s in the challenge of winning or the attract of lights it represents

so a eight year old will still become addicted to ticket machines just like a 2p pusher or grabby machines 

how many of us first stepped into gambling via grabbies or 2p pushers? 

does pushers and grabbies have a percentage payout?
you can be addicted to anything, if you crave it enough. Chocolate, cigs, sex and they’re not blanket banning them? We’ll cigs they have done

 

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2 hours ago, nails said:

redemption machines are a massive money spinner. For starters you would expect to find a 72% payout machine in the first place, but they you have way over prices prizes so its a double whammy. 

A 10p chuppa chump or however its spelt can expect to shift at 100 tickets, or £1. this was purchased at 10p. then factor in how much money it costs to get 100 tickets. could cost you double , so a 10p lolly could cost you £2.

* i cant remeember if i posted it in this thread or elsewhere, but an arcade in Hemsby had a mini-moto bike up for grabs. This young boy came in every day and granny gave him £XXX per day. eventually after many months he accumulated enough tickets and exchanged for the bike in question.

After speaking to the manager, they said that they couldnt wait for him to win it, explaiing it was becoming embarrasing as to that point he had spent £13,000 chasing a bike that they bought from the wholesalers for £600.

Exactly.

If anything it's far more at luring kids of an age where they don't have a proper concept of money yet into gambling,not away from it. See kids feverishly shoving money into these things, lured by toys and candy which arguably appeals much more than a £5 jackpot. Nothing about this new approach is gambling prevention, if anything its gearing kids up to be more willing to chase ever more elusive prizes. When you watch kids play these things its not difficult to see which ones are likely going to end up with addiction later in life in the online casino's. And these kids will be used to shoving pound after pound chasing a prize that is worthless or merely unatttainable. Once you factor this conditioning to accept that the stake is irrelevant to the end goal, and that they should persevere no matter the loss as if it isn't even happening then you have a wave of people just perfect for the online gambling industry to sweep up later in life.

In my mind, the ticket machines are far worse. The whole industry is twisted, they know exactly what they are doing and so does the government. Would'nt surprise me if what we are seeing is a marker of the future in which online casino's begin to introduce physhical prizes as opposed to cash in a bid to maximize profit and take advantage of the next generations who will be conditioned to play endlessly for whatever the prize may be. It's coming, imagine the money made once percentages can be lowered drastically and people start gambling for a house or car of which the casino will rake in the value tenfold or more.

 

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7 hours ago, vectra666 said:

Ticket machines are only 30% payout lol so £1 in 30p in tickets out (30) a chubba lolly costs upwards of 50tickets to redeem as said costing the punter £2 or more to win of course the blackjacks and fruit salads are 5tickets each which normally cost 2p 

a fruit machine is a fruit machine whether it’s cash or not, and the addiction isn’t in the fruit machine itself,  it’s in the challenge of winning or the attract of lights it represents

so a eight year old will still become addicted to ticket machines just like a 2p pusher or grabby machines 

how many of us first stepped into gambling via grabbies or 2p pushers? 

does pushers and grabbies have a percentage payout?
you can be addicted to anything, if you crave it enough. Chocolate, cigs, sex and they’re not blanket banning them? We’ll cigs they have done

 

 I used to work for UDC based in wembley whos sole trade is redemption machines. not much i dont know about them. some arcades value the tickets at 1/2p.

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I would say that ticket-based machines are way more addictive than regular fruits because there are multiple levels of engagement. 

Obviously there's the initial gambling on the machine, you pay real money and get excited 'winning'. 

But on top of that you have the excitement of the ticket eating machine that pays out a more valuable ticket. 

Then the thrill of the chase, trying to gain though tickets to exchange for a prize. 

And although the prize will generally be a piece of tat, I can still remember my son's joy at winning a leaping porcelain dolphin from the croyde holiday camp arcade. 

 

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1 hour ago, Boulderdash said:

I….:: And although the prize will generally be a piece of tat, I can still remember my son's joy at winning a leaping porcelain dolphin from the croyde holiday camp arcade. 

 

Which probably cost you over £20 lol ooh the joys of parenthood

my two are the same, I’m itching to play the remaining £5 machines but they’re scrounging for more 

I try to be up on the machines so I can float their loses. It’s like “here’s a fiver each, bugger  off lol”. Five mins later hands out for more ffs. So you’re not only playing the fruits you’re also playing the ticket or grabby machine too. 

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On 12/02/2022 at 22:12, vectra666 said:

30% payout too so you spend £10 to win approx 300 tickets, expecting £3 worth of goodies but nooo

its a plastic plane worth £1- 250tickets and five blackjacks for the remaking 50

some arcades do offer decent prizes but are far and wide , it’s mainly shitty plastic pound shop tat!!

mmmmm blackjacks

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4 hours ago, MikeyMonster said:

The horror!!!

Applejacks on the other hand - they were a gift from the gods.....  I could easily see me spunking money in a ticket fruitie for a few applejacks!

One of my last trips to Brid I was a bit peckish and there was a 2p pusher with standard size Mars, Snickers, e.t.c. in it.

From memory from my speed-play of £2 in 2ps I got 3 bars and still had about 20p in 2ps left at the end. Probably cheaper than a vending machine (and definitely cheaper than the vending machine of the hotel was staying in). I never had chocolate in a pusher I operated (wasn't sure it was a good idea due to heat from lighting) but I guess the move to LED lamps and stuff makes it doable.

Seem to recall playing pushers for Ring Pops and things when I was younger. God knows what happened to them. Loved stuff like Fiz Wiz too. 

A bit off-topic, but was talking with mum again about about an old arcade we used to go to about 30 or so years ago. I remember one of the machines used to pay out balls of bubblegum. Not wrapped or anything. I think all the bubblegum was visible in a tube at the back of the machine and the payout was probably a modified version of a fruit machine tube solenoid system.

I think it was a game of skill... but it was effectively prize every time. I think it was a joystick and single red button on top, and think the machine involved a space rocket or similar.

In any case we were talking about food safety at the time, and I mentioned that machine... god knows how old the gum was, where it came from, or what was even in it. 

Still tasty though and went on it every visit :D

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