This is getting better and better, it looks amazing, well done John, I'm still getting problems though, the machines don't start up, I did get one to play, then nothing, I did notice mfme started up, and when I clicked on it, it was running the game, albeieit just the alpha and a few lights, but the alpha was loading the game correctly, anyway I wouldn't worry to much, insure its just a problem with my pc.